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Anyone else's teams grabbing wr/rb hybrid types?
Posted on 6/21/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 6/21/24 at 12:51 pm
Just wondering if it's a trend around other teams
Missouri went awfully hard after Jamarion Morrow and Shaun Terry.
They both play all over the field. Could be really confusing for defenses if you play them in the right scheme.
Missouri went awfully hard after Jamarion Morrow and Shaun Terry.
They both play all over the field. Could be really confusing for defenses if you play them in the right scheme.
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 12:56 pm to Miznoz
Might be the way LSU is going with guys like Caden Durham and Harley Berry.
Hard to say what kind of running game Kelly wants though.
Hard to say what kind of running game Kelly wants though.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 6:38 am to wadewilson
I wouldn't be surprised if teams wanted to adapt Drinks zone run scheme.
Posted on 6/22/24 at 3:31 pm to Miznoz
Yeah, Kelly definitely seems to prefer lighter RB's. We still have some big guys, like Kaleb Jackson and John Emery, and an offer to 2025 D'Shaun Ford, but Holly, Durham, 2025's Berry and Lindsey - those guys are all built like slot receivers.
LSU ran a pretty simple offense last year.
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I could fumble through my understanding of the concept, but this guy does it better.
A bunch of videos in that link.
You can do a lot from that play, and it's definitely more important for this offense to have an RB that is competent as a receiver than to have a prototypical bruising rusher.
LSU ran a pretty simple offense last year.
I could fumble through my understanding of the concept, but this guy does it better.
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The brilliance of LSU’s offense last year stems from its simple complexity, which can be exemplified by its favorite pass concept, popularly known as “Shock.”
Base Concept
A staple of NFL passing games, the concept is most associated with the Brees/Payton era Saints as one of their best calls out of empty, though it can be run from any formation with 3 receivers to a side. The relevant concept below is pictured on the 3-receiver side (paired with a backside choice, or “lookie (called Lucy in this formation)” route by the X).
A bunch of videos in that link.
You can do a lot from that play, and it's definitely more important for this offense to have an RB that is competent as a receiver than to have a prototypical bruising rusher.
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 6/22/24 at 5:41 pm to Miznoz
It's great to have players who can line up at different positions and excel. UGA had that with Bowers who could line up at WR, TE, FB and RB and have success.
But he wasn't a hybrid player. He was just an ultra-talented TE.
Champ Baily and Hines Ward both played a lot of different positions at different times for UGA and were good at doing so due to their talent. But neither was a Hybrid. Champ was a DB and Ward was a WR.
I think we have to differentiate between "tweeners" who are talented athletes but don't fit physically at any one position so they find a position to play at and players who do fit at a position but are so talented they can also play other positions successfully. It's not the same thing.
UGA is always looking for the later. But not really the former.
But he wasn't a hybrid player. He was just an ultra-talented TE.
Champ Baily and Hines Ward both played a lot of different positions at different times for UGA and were good at doing so due to their talent. But neither was a Hybrid. Champ was a DB and Ward was a WR.
I think we have to differentiate between "tweeners" who are talented athletes but don't fit physically at any one position so they find a position to play at and players who do fit at a position but are so talented they can also play other positions successfully. It's not the same thing.
UGA is always looking for the later. But not really the former.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 1:11 am to DawginSC
I agree with you, about differentiation. But the guys you describe..they are super hard to develop..heck even identify in hs. Those guys can play everywhere...but can they do it at a high level consistently? Can they be counted on to deliver in the clutch at their 3rd best position..while you have a great slot sitting that play out? And a top 4 team like UGA would have a guy sitting out that's probably getting drafted eventually? ..sooo I like it alot in theory..i do..& I see the major advantages in match up football..which is getting more prevalent every year...& to have some packages from mid season on...after your team has been scouted thoroughly...but when it matters..I feel.everyone will revert to their best line up..with their best players performing at their very best positions. A concentrated effort to target & recruit such unicorns if you will...for a match up concept you will rarely use in the clutch...is high risk due to the current transfer opportunities..you'd be investing a lot of time to build a kid or two...when they can leave.twicr a year now
Posted on 6/23/24 at 2:30 am to DawginSC
I'm not talking about guys like Bowers or Luther Burden exactly. those are just studs
You could interchange Terry and Morrow between slot wr and rb seamlessly. they could be steady contributors or turn out to be studs themselves.
I don't know about Bowers but Burden isn't someone you'd run inside very much.
You could interchange Terry and Morrow between slot wr and rb seamlessly. they could be steady contributors or turn out to be studs themselves.
I don't know about Bowers but Burden isn't someone you'd run inside very much.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:33 am to Miznoz
I'm not seeing it. Terry is not a running back. Burden isn't either, but he would be better suited for RB than a 170 lb Shaun Terry. Burden is over 200 lbs and runs angrier than any player around.
Posted on 6/23/24 at 7:22 am to Miznoz
Frazier last year for us...James Cook, was and we have an offer out for one or two more. Players who can run the ball, and still split out to get a mismatch from a LB covering them. Georgia has done it the last several years in particular.
Primarily a super fast, but smaller RB but can split out and catch the ball. While not smaller, Kenny McIntosh and D'Andre Swift filled that role, too. But Frazier is probably the closest to what you mean.
Primarily a super fast, but smaller RB but can split out and catch the ball. While not smaller, Kenny McIntosh and D'Andre Swift filled that role, too. But Frazier is probably the closest to what you mean.
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