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re: 4* CB Nadab Joseph has signed with UGA, flipped from Bama
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:46 am to fibonaccisquared
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:46 am to fibonaccisquared
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When Bama got the commitment from Jobe, it gave them more flexibility at the position, feeling like they have potential with both Campbell and ITS, it gave them some room to feel like they could ask him to wait. Couple that with the fact that they already took a risk with Barmore earlier who may have his own issues with qualifying to get in and it becomes a bit of risk management.
And this is why Saban hates the early signing period. It won't be the last prospect Alabama loses as they wait on things shaking out academically. There's only so many question marks you can take with a ceiling of 25.
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Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:47 am to fibonaccisquared
Who shitted on the kid, i only saw in this case, wasn't worth the risk. As you said we deemed Barmore worth the risk.
Probably can't afford to lose 2 spots in a worst case scenario. More CB's out there than DT's.
Edit: Sorry did see a post shitting on the kid.
Probably can't afford to lose 2 spots in a worst case scenario. More CB's out there than DT's.
Edit: Sorry did see a post shitting on the kid.
This post was edited on 12/21/17 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:50 am to Eli Goldfinger
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id had bad grades and can apparently barely read. He won’t get into a college without some serious shenanigans
You got Emmons qualified and he was in worse shape academically. Amazing how a recruit flips and suddenly you can’t work the machine anymore.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:51 am to phaz
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Who shitted on the kid, i only saw in this case, wasn't worth the risk. As you said we deemed Barmore worth the risk.
Was mostly looking at this comment:
"Kid had bad grades and can apparently barely read. He won’t get into a college without some serious shenanigans."
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Probably can't afford to lose 2 spots in a worst case scenario. More CB's out there than DT's.
100%, that was the meat of my comment. It's an easy decision for you guys in that boat. DTs are at a premium this year, Barmore is *still* better than his rating IMO... you don't see a ton of DTs that athletic... maybe a project due to not playing football long, but he's a hell of a get. On the other hand, having Jobe, and feeling good about other CB options, the risk/reward was obviously higher for Barmore. Doing it twice with less spots total was something Bama couldn't afford... I don't think they expected him to look elsewhere though if he wasn't allowed to sign early... that I think caught most by surprise.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:52 am to phaz
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Edit: Sorry did see a post shitting on the kid.
All good man.
I don't generally try to start any shite here. I'll give it if I'm gettin' it though.
Recruiting board (and threads) is hallowed ground IMO.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:52 am to fibonaccisquared
IMO Barmore is one of the 3 best DT prospects in the class, based on film I've seen
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:54 am to CapstoneGrad06
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And this is why Saban hates the early signing period. It won't be the last prospect Alabama loses as they wait on things shaking out academically. There's only so many question marks you can take with a ceiling of 25.
Yeah... I mean, everyone's going to have to deal with the same problems to some degree, but it definitely decreases the risk tolerance that some coaches may have had in years past.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:56 am to NCDawg52
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IMO Barmore is one of the 3 best DT prospects in the class, based on film I've seen
The only thing preventing me from putting him at the top is simply not really having *enough* film to evaluate, and I also don't really know enough about his level of competition... but he does so much athletically rather than purely physically, that I almost don't care.
Really wanted to have a shot at him. The kid from Missouri that we're now in on though looks pretty good at least. Just wish his highlight vid was exclusively defense... it's interspersed OL play with DL play and I lose interest Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:58 am to fibonaccisquared
DL and Corner are the hardest positions to evaluate in tape to me.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 10:58 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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You got Emmons qualified and he was in worse shape academically. Amazing how a recruit flips and suddenly you can’t work the machine anymore.
Impossible to compare anything from before. With the new early signing period it changes everything.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:00 am to CapstoneGrad06
All teams will be asking kids to wait. We asked Brule and a few others and if they don't wait they could spurn you. The new signing period creates some interesting commit management.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:01 am to fibonaccisquared
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Really wanted to have a shot at him
We did. Bama just beat us.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:03 am to CapstoneGrad06
You took a huge ris on getting him qualified and he was in worse shape academically. I get that only signing 25 makes the risk higher but it comes off as sour grapes considering nothing was mentioned about grades until he flipped.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:04 am to CapstoneGrad06
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With the new early signing period it changes everything.
Except for the melting.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:04 am to Porter Osborne Jr
You seem to be on edge. What's the deal? Do you think Bama sent him a NLI or not?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:04 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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You took a huge ris on getting him qualified and he was in worse shape academically. I get that only signing 25 makes the risk higher but it comes off as sour grapes considering nothing was mentioned about grades until he flipped.
Actually grades were being mentioned by his guardian as to why he was possibly not signing early.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:05 am to AmericusDawg
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We did. Bama just beat us.
Yeah... were supposed to get him on campus in January. I think that might have moved the needle... just didn't make it there. But as always, will defer to your insights.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:07 am to LSU Patrick
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Except for the melting.
Que?
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:07 am to crimsonian
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Do you think Bama sent him a NLI or not?
Answer is Bama did not.
Posted on 12/21/17 at 11:10 am to crimsonian
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You seem to be on edge. What's the deal? Do you think Bama sent him a NLI or not?
No... I think the issue here is Bama fans attempting to play the "some shenanigans required" card, when Bama has routinely gotten guys qualified that wouldn't anywhere else. I think the answer here is obvious. Bama took their qual risk on Barmore. UGA took their qual risk on Joseph... for needs and available talent that was in play, I think both schools made smart moves. It's not rocket science.
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