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2023 Elite 11 Finals (June 14-16)

Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:21 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:21 am
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EVENT INFORMATION

WHO: The 2023 Elite 11 Finals is intended for top level rising senior quarterbacks (Class of 2024). The top Class of 2024 signal callers will be selected for the Elite 11 Finals.

WHAT: The 2023 Elite 11 Finals will bring together top performers to receive advanced, one-on-one quarterback instruction in a highly competitive setting. The 2023 Elite 11 Finals will span three days and include on-field drills, routes-on-air, classroom instruction and off-field development. The Elite 11 will be named at the conclusion of The Elite 11 Finals.

WHEN: June 14 - 16, 2023

WHERE: Los Angeles, CA


2023 Elite 11 Finals Roster

SEC Commitments:

- Michael Hawkins Jr., Frisco, TX - Oklahoma

- Colin Hurley, Jacksonville, FL - LSU

- Derek Lagway, Willis, TX - Florida

- Ryan Puglisi, Avon, CT - Georgia

- Dylan Raiola, Pinnacle, AZ - Georgia

- Dante Reno, Cheshire, CT - South Carolina

- Julian Sayin, Carslbad, CA - Alabama

- Demond Williams Jr., Basha, AZ - Ole Miss
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 8:22 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:28 am to
Elite 11 Finals Preview: Top quarterbacks set to compete in Los Angeles (On3)

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SEC commits headline Elite 11 Finals

The group is headlined by a trio of SEC commitments – Five-Star Plus+ prospect Dylan Raiola (Georgia), Julian Sayin (Alabama) and DJ Lagway (Florida).

Dylan Raiola (No. 7 in the On300) has been tabbed as the cycle’s top quarterback prospect dating to our initial rankings release in the spring of 2022. The 6-foot-2.5, 220-pounder surfaced as a top arm talent with flashes of playmaking ability in his sophomore season at Burleson (Texas) High. He had ups and downs as a junior at Chandler (Ariz.) High. At the minimum, the gap between Raiola and the rest of the pack does not appear to be as large as it once appeared. Heading into the Elite 11, we’re eager to compare Raiola’s arm talent and pure passing ability to the rest of the group. Is he the head and shoulders top arm in the cycle? As is the case for most of the passers on hand, the story on Raiola’s evaluation will likely be written during his senior season at Phoenix (Ariz.) Pinnacle. But we will get a glimpse of where he’s at heading into the fall and a much clearer picture of how he stacks up among the group from a tools perspective.

Julian Sayin (No. 18) is the most consistent arm in the cycle to this point – across multiple settings. The Carlsbad (Calif.) High product is technically refined with one of the quickest releases among the group. He’s highly accurate and there’s very little variance from throw to throw. As is the case with several others, the 6-foot-1, 195-pounder has not shown to have overwhelming physical tools to this point. With that said, the Elite 11 Finals should provide a clearer look at how his arm strength compares within the group.

Heading into the event, I’d put my money on DJ Lagway (No. 20) as the most physically-gifted Elite 11 Finalist. At around 6-foot-3, 230 pounds, Lagway has one of the strongest arms in the cycle along with very good athleticism. The Willis (Texas) High product’s highs are the best we’ve seen from the group. If Lagway continues to improve his overall consistency and has a big senior season, he could challenge as the top quarterback in the cycle.


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Top challengers at Elite 11 Finals

Several other big names will be in Los Angles and look to mount a challenge.

Ohio State commit Air Noland (No. 42) had the best junior season of any Elite 11 Finalist. The 6-foot-2, 190-pounder shredded defenses to the tune of 4,095 yards and 55 touchdowns while leading his team to a state title against tough competition in the state of Georgia. Noland is an intelligent, accurate passer with a strong feel for the game. Similar to Sayin, we’ll be looking to see how his physical tools stack up among the group in this setting.

Florida State pledge Luke Kromenhoek (No. 46) has shown some of the best physical traits of the group up to this point. The Savannah (Ga.) Benedictine signal caller is 6-foot-3.5, 190 pounds with a big arm and good movement skills. Kromenhoek was a first year starter as a junior and is probably a little earlier in his developmental curve than some of the others for that reason, but has the potential to ascend with continued experience and added consistency. The size, arm and athleticism look to be very translatable.

Ryan Puglisi (No. 104) will join Raiola in giving Georgia two commits at the Elite 11 Finals. The Avon (Conn.) Avon Old Farms passer has one of the strongest arms in the cycle. Puglisi is not an easy evaluation as a player on Friday nights given he plays in a New England boarding school league, so this week will give us the opportunity to compare him with the other top passers. We’ll particularly be watching to see how he fares in the 7-on-7 portion of the event.

Michigan commit Jadyn Davis (No. 115) has been highly touted dating back to his freshman season. At 6-foot-0.5, 195 pounds, Davis is an in-structure distributor who had his best prep season as a junior after transferring to Charlotte (N.C.) Providence Day. We’re eager to see how Davis’s pure passing ability and physical tools stack up.

Elijah Brown (No. 176) is one of just a few uncommitted Elite 11 Finalists. He’s been at the helm of national powerhouse Mater Dei for the past several seasons and is an established winner on Friday nights. To this point, Brown has looked more comfortable in the high school setting as opposed to a neutral environment. Will Brown settle in after more time at the Elite 11 and how does his natural talent fit within the group? Stanford is out front according to the On3 Recruiting Prediction Machine.

Notre Dame pledge CJ Carr (No. 193) is one of the more technically polished Elite 11 Finalists. The Saline (Mich.) High product is steady and consistent in the camp setting. We would not be surprised if he turns in a consistent performance in this setting. While much of his evaluation will hinge on the senior season, we’ll be looking to see how his arm strength checks out this week.

LSU commit Colin Hurley is the youngest Elite 11 Finalist. The one-time 2025 prospect reclassified to the 2024 cycle upon committing to the Tigers. Hurley has a very strong arm that is capable of making some of the best throws we’ll see in this neutral setting. He will need to make a jump in what will be his senior season, but added consistency and accuracy at the Elite 11 Finals could be a positive sign.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 8:30 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:40 am to
Elite 11 Finals: 20 QBs and a question for each to address (Rivals)

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Michael Hawkins

Recruitment: Hawkins is committed to Oklahoma.

Question: Should Hawkins be moved to pro-style quarterback?

Overview: The four-star prospect was excellent at the Dallas Rivals Camp, and he was definitely best when he dropped back in the pocket and delivered the ball on the money. He could also throw on the run but he also did just run for 409 yards and three touchdowns last season, so over the next few days we should be able to determine two things: Is Hawkins better than his No. 156 overall ranking and should he be moved to pro-style quarterback?


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Colin Hurley

Recruitment: Hurley is committed to LSU.

Question: Can Hurley be more accurate on the deep ball?

Overview: I would like Hurley’s completion percentage to be higher than 57% and one thing that has become clear at the OT7 Phoenix and the Steve Clarkson QB Retreat is that Hurley can absolutely make all the throws but sometimes his deep ball sails. To be fair, sometimes receivers didn’t get to a nicely thrown ball at the Clarkson event, but over the next few days if Hurley can consistently hit elite receivers on the deep ball it could be eye-opening.


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DJ Lagway

Recruitment: Lagway is committed to Florida.

Question: Should Lagway be in five-star contention?

Overview: Lagway has all the tools to be considered for five-star status from an impressive junior season to great physical characteristics and so much more. It’s why the Florida commit is one notch below that ranking and the No. 1 dual-threat quarterback in the country. Right now, there are three five-star QBs and it looks like a lock that Dylan Raiola and Julian Sayin will absolutely stay there. Lagway has an opportunity to move even higher than his current ranking.


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Ryan Puglisi

Recruitment: The four-star quarterback from Avon (Conn.) Avon Old Farms is committed to Georgia.

Question: Will Puglisi forever be QB2 in Athens?

Overview: It feels like an unfair question but No. 1 overall prospect Dylan Raiola is also committed to the Bulldogs, so this could be an opportunity for Puglisi, who hasn’t done many national events coming from New England, to show he could be an underdog quarterback who could compete for early playing time in Athens. It’s certainly not out of the question, since the four-star plays with confidence and can deliver the ball.


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Dylan Raiola

Recruitment: Raiola is committed to Georgia.

Question: Is he really the No. 1 player in the class?

Overview: The new Phoenix Pinnacle QB has stayed out of the limelight this offseason and has not done many events other than the regional Elite 11 workout. Instead, Raiola focused on his recruitment and ended up picking the Bulldogs over USC and Nebraska. The No. 1 player in the class will have ample opportunities over the coming days to prove that ranking belongs – or there could be more questions heading into the season.


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Dante Reno

Recruitment: The Cheshire (Conn.) Cheshire Academy recruit is committed to South Carolina.

Question: Is he the best New England QB?

Overview: There are two four-star quarterbacks from New England who are coming to the Elite 11, and both are going to the SEC. Ryan Puglisi is one. Reno is the other and he’s definitely someone who could enter the Rivals250 with a solid performance. The four-star is not surrounded by elite talent in high school, so timing up with top-notch receivers at the Elite 11 could really help him.


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Julian Sayin

Recruitment: Sayin is committed to Alabama.

Question: Is he the best quarterback in the 2024 class?

Overview: In recent months, there was some distance between Dylan Raiola and Sayin, but that has quickly closed as the Alabama commit has gotten bigger and he’s been fantastic at numerous events this offseason. Whether it was the Los Angeles Rivals Camp or especially the Steve Clarkson Retreat, Sayin has put on a show.


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Demond Williams

Recruitment: Williams is committed to Ole Miss.

Question: Size won’t matter at this event, but will it long term?

Overview: I get the argument that height doesn’t matter much anymore with quarterbacks, and I do agree that having “prototypical” size isn’t what it used to be, but let’s also remember out of the 14 quarterbacks taken in the most recent NFL Draft only two were shorter than 6-foot. Those were Bryce Young, with the No. 1 pick, and Georgia’s Stetson Bennett in the fourth round. Williams has dynamic arm talent and he’s great throwing on the run, so he comes into the Elite 11 with a lot of tools.
This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 8:41 am
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/14/23 at 8:45 am to
Elite 11 Roundtable: MVP picks, sleepers and the guys we wish were in Los Angeles (247 Sports)

Too long to post the actual meat of the article, but it's a free read.

This post was edited on 6/14/23 at 8:48 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 8:02 am to
Good stuff. Thanks for sharing
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:15 am to
Thanks for sharing
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:30 am to
Elite 11 Finals: Day 1 Top Performers (On3)

On3 MVP: Ethan Grunkemeyer – Penn State commit

2. Julian Sayin – Alabama
3. Luke Kromenhoek – Florida State
4. Trever Jackson – Uncommitted
5. Air Noland – Ohio State
6. Ryan Puglisi – Georgia
7. Hauss Hejny – TCU
8. Dylan Raiola – Georgia
9. DJ Lagway – Florida

10. CJ Carr – Notre Dame
11. Colin Hurley – LSU

It's a free article with detailed write-ups on each of the Top 11 plus some additional notes on how other guys performed.
Posted by Quicksilver
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:32 am to
Good stuff. If Demond Williams was 6'2" 210, he'd be a borderline 5 star.
Posted by Floyd Dawg
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:35 am to
247 and On3 have wildly different takes in ranking the E11 after the first day.

Raiola ranked 1st by 247 and 8th by On3.

Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:36 am to
Ranking the quarterbacks after the first workout of Elite 11 Finals (247 Sports)

ALPHA DOG: DYLAN RAIOLA (GEORIGA COMMIT)

2. Luke Kromenhoek (FSU commit)
3. Julian Sayin (Alabama commit)
4. Air Noland (Ohio State commit)
5. Jadyn Davis (Michigan commit)
6. Hauss Hejny (TCU commit)
7. DJ Lagway (Florida commit)
8. Trever Jackson
9. Colin Hurley (LSU commit)
10. CJ Carr (Notre Dame commit)
11. Ethan Grunkemeyer (Penn State commit)

Another free read with detailed analysis on each of their top performers.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:37 am to
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247 and On3 have wildly different takes in ranking the E11 after the first day.

Raiola ranked 1st by 247 and 8th by On3.


I'm about to post Rivals' rankings. They are just as different as the other two.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 9:38 am to
Elite 11: Early impressions after the first day of competition (Rivals)

1. AIR NOLAND
2. DYLAN RAIOLA
3. TREVER JACKSON
4. LUKE KROMENHOEK
5. JULIAN SAYIN
6. CJ CARR
7. DEMOND WILLIAMS
8. WILLIAM HAMMOND
9. DJ LAGWAY
10. ETHAN GRUNKEMEYER
11. RYAN PUGLISI

They ranked all 20 participants so if you want to read their synopsis for each it is a free article, too.
This post was edited on 6/15/23 at 9:58 am
Posted by Captain Crown
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 10:05 am to
I heard that the competition winner is based 50% on the three days at the camp then the other 50% is based on their junior season.
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 10:44 am to
Take this with a grain of salt, but one of the Rivals Ohio State writers tweeted this early today:



LINK
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 10:47 am to
One of the WRs in attendance for the Elite 11 Finals apparently disagrees with On3's top performer from Day One:



Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 11:11 am to
You mean to tell me that an OSU guy feels that former OSU commit Raiola struggled while the current OSU commit looks like the next Stroud? Shocking new

It does look like Sayin and Raiola are a step above the others right now though
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 12:51 pm to
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You mean to tell me that an OSU guy feels that former OSU commit Raiola struggled while the current OSU commit looks like the next Stroud? Shocking new



That isn't what that tweet says at all. It says that is what other people TOLD HIM.

I have no idea how to rank them based on even the rankings. There is a ton of variance and you would assume all these services had people at the event


Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 1:02 pm to
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That isn't what that tweet says at all. It says that is what other people TOLD HIM.



And you think that's the only thing people told him? Or maybe he picked what pushes his OSU narrative a bit?
Posted by Buckeye06
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 1:28 pm to
I see no reason why he would lie about that. It agree with what others have said just not as bluntly.

He didn't even say anything that inflammatory. You just have your panties in a bunch because Raiola wasn't a clear #1 yesterday
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
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Posted on 6/15/23 at 1:31 pm to
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see no reason why he would lie about that.


I didn't say he lied. I said I'm not surprised an OSU guy would say something negative about a recruit that spurned his school and something positive about his current commit. It happens all the time with others.

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You just have your panties in a bunch because Raiola wasn't a clear #1 yesterday


Nah, just pointing out his biases. Nothing more nothing less.
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