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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA

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Posted by TreyAnastasio
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:49 pm to
You're not going to hear anything tonight.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:51 pm to
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Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:53 pm to
OK I hate to bring this up but anyway I just saw a tweet where a fan asked Amari Cooper was Duron Carter on the team this year and Amari Cooper said yes. Is this old news?
Posted by Defense
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:57 pm to
Supposedly he has a summer class to pass.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 9:58 pm to
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QB no, but WR/TE sure as hell helped him out. It proved he could catch, and he also proved he could block while at ACA.



I've only seen him play WR in the videos before his Junior and Senior years of playing QB. And while I'm sure he did some blocking at WR, I'm not sure it's up to par with being a blocking TE. If it is, you could certainly say Derrick Henry passblocking as a RB deserves the same merit. And I'm sure, while not as many, Derrick Henry has caught passes from the backfield as well.

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Although I expect good things from him at Hback, he has yet to play a game yet. So you cant use that as an example.



The fact he is pushing for the starting position in the staff's eyes leads me to think I can. They've even had Calloway hanging out with Henry when he's visited, certainly not a complete coincidence.

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Henry has been more of a hard line about RB than I've seen in a while. He even has stated it a few time that hes never played another position, and has no plans of doing so.

If this was a big class that I would be happy about it, but considering the players that we've turned away, and the few spots we have left I just dont think it's worth it.



And yet he's already started stepping back on his stance, it use to be no other position period. But now it's give me 2 years and I'll switch. So if he switches, who is to say his stance will change come February? "I just want to play offense" or "I want to be put in the best situation to get me to the NFL"?

Who knows, but having one of the best athletes from one of the best football states is never a bad thing. As it stands now, Bama is still on track to take everyone that they want and that are seriously interested. Now if Bama gets a commit from someone unexpected, it changes a few things up...
Posted by Defense
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:04 pm to
Great post Mag
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:05 pm to
did he flip?
Posted by cajunsack
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:09 pm to
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I started a thread on the SECRant comparing our loss to Utah in 2008 to LSU getting beat by Stony Brook. It got whacked with a quickness.


Someone painted a 50 yard line on 3rd base
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:10 pm to
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Great post Mag




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did he flip?



Not yet, but it seems like the feeling is it's coming soon...
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:11 pm to
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Someone painted a 50 yard line on 3rd base



Someone needs to make an alter, fark this, and take it to the Tiger Rant.
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:12 pm to
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I started a thread on the SECRant comparing our loss to Utah in 2008 to LSU getting beat by Stony Brook. It got whacked with a quickness.


And that is why no matter how much they say this is the SECRant.com and we have our on area, it will always be a LSU site.

Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:12 pm to
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Someone needs to make an alter, fark this, and take it to the Tiger Rant.





I can do it, but I'm not posting it.

NVM, i can't find any good source pics and I'm being lazy.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Analyze That
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:18 pm to
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And that is why no matter how much they say this is the SECRant.com and we have our on area, it will always be a LSU site.



Thank God for alcohol... Who's ready to chug a liter?
Posted by DonDraper
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 10:49 pm to
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MagillaGuerilla


No matter how you try to slice it Smelley had proven hands, and actually blocked. While Henry has proven neither.

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Derrick Henry passblocking as a RB deserves the same merit.


No. It's widely known that good HS RB's rarely have to block. It's always a concern for freshman RBs. If you're a good/elite RB in HS you rarely passblock, they're just trying to get you the ball anyways possible.

Anyways, I just think by the time he does come around to playing Hback there will be someone already there that knows the position better. Like I said before, I hope I'm wrong but I'm just calling it as I see it.
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:15 pm to
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No matter how you try to slice it Smelley had proven hands, and actually blocked. While Henry has proven neither.



I'll give you proven hands due to the position.

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No. It's widely known that good HS RB's rarely have to block. It's always a concern for freshman RBs. If you're a good/elite RB in HS you rarely passblock, they're just trying to get you the ball anyways possible.


That's a convenient "commonly known" fact that just happens to fit the current conversation. It's like me saying star WRs rarely blocked at the HS level, which Smelley was up till he started playing QB. Blocking from WRs is a concern out of HS too, and has been shown at Bama. Bama has had elite prospects at the position that have been in a revolving door type cycle, in one minute, out the next. White and Norwood have displayed receiving ability at times, but have also been put on the bench because are good blockers.

Smelley himself got pulled out of the lineup for poor blocking ability his sophomore year, so whatever blocking he did in HS gave him no experience in it at the collegiate level. It's something he had to learn, and Henry will have to pick it up too. That's what college is for though, to grow as people and players, he's not gonna be asked to start early at Bama if he went there. Even 5* recruits are gonna have to work for starting positions now at Bama, even more so than before.

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Anyways, I just think by the time he does come around to playing Hback there will be someone already there that knows the position better. Like I said before, I hope I'm wrong but I'm just calling it as I see it.



That's up to chance, he could end up sitting on the bench up until his Senior year. I still don't see the conversion being that advanced, especially since it's growing into more of a receiving weapon and less of a blocking role. Not that is hasn't been that already, Bama has just been using what they had at the position(which kinda put them behind the curve).

Bama would likely make a similar conversion with another potential commit in Alvin Kamara, from RB to WR. They don't seem to worry too much about his inexperience at the position he could be projected at. He doesn't run a full route tree from the RB position, but they don't seem to mind too much.

To go back to what I said about TCU, they grab up several RBs and then move them around, some to positions that they have never played. It seems to have worked from them so far, you take elite athletes and fit them into positions when they are on campus.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:19 pm
Posted by sarc
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:34 pm to
If nothing else, I feel confident that Henry would be great on kickoff coverage and running the jet sweep.

But seriously he looked like a pretty natural pass catcher in some of the camp videos I've seen. That really just leaves blocking. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't. Guess he'd be what they call a boom or bust prospect.
This post was edited on 6/10/12 at 11:36 pm
Posted by VanBasten9
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Posted on 6/10/12 at 11:39 pm to
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To go back to what I said about TCU, they grab up several RBs and then move them around, some to positions that they have never played.


They were wise to keep LT at RB even though he didn't do much of anything until his junior year....

Don...you up for another round...or are u

Ohhh well....it was a good read....like watching a tennis match....
Posted by NATidefan
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Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:04 am to
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If nothing else, I feel confident that Henry would be great on kickoff coverage and running the jet sweep.



The guy is a five star, the staff wants him, and this video has him scoring a TD every play for the first 6 minutes I believe. I'll give him a shot.

JMO.

Posted by MagillaGuerilla
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Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:09 am to
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If nothing else, I feel confident that Henry would be great on kickoff coverage and running the jet sweep.

But seriously he looked like a pretty natural pass catcher in some of the camp videos I've seen. That really just leaves blocking. Maybe he can do it, maybe he can't. Guess he'd be what they call a boom or bust prospect.


And FTR, I'm haven't closed the door on Henry potentially being a WR. It's probably not a big chance, but he has been cutting weight recently. He's down to 231 and dropping, as well as taking up gymnastics to improve his overall flexibility. There's not telling what number he makes it to if he's trimming fat and adding muscle.

It could work well for his RB aspects as well, and that would be incredible considering what he has done already in his career.

It's like Terrance Ganaway from Baylor. He's this huge 6-1, 240 that never really caught many passes under Art Briles. Then after he gets drafted by the Jets, he flashes great hands at rookie OTAs. Sometimes it's not because he's bad at it, he just didn't need to do it to succeed.

And blocking technique is gonna be ripped apart by coaches when they arrive on campus, very few come in ready to go. And you're right, he is risk trying find a position for his talent. But I'd take that chance every time, especially if it clicks.
Posted by Defense
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/11/12 at 12:20 am to
Oh shite just watched some Demarcus Walker film. He is a beast. Gonna be a good one.
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