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re: 2013 Alabama Football Recruiting Thread - DH Decommited from UGA

Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Defense
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Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:07 pm to
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Buttmunch from WoollyAL

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Not sure who wrote this but I found it interesting.....
Unless something is breaking, I anticipate this being my only chance to cover some ground for a while. I want to emphasize that some of this stuff will venture into opinion from myself and others I respect and we'll leave it there. Some of the topics I have seen asked about on this and other Boards are:
-As for Nkemdeche, he is still solid to UA and that is considered very secure
regardless of articles you have read or will likely follow. Ole Miss has been
the leader in attempting to fracture the kid's relationship with Conn by
planting seeds that he was being controlled but it hasn't worked.

-As for Ruben Foster, this will be a dicey area for me to cover but I'll be very
candid. As of last weekend, I am still hearing UA is not confident in it's
outlook with the kid and my personal opinion is that he shouldn't be considered
a commitment. Reportedly, the kid wasn't honest about several situations from

UGA people trying to set him up in an Atlanta-area High School to giving
Oxford High the finger and enrolling at AUHS. One thing I want to really hit on
the head is a response to people singing the praises about former AU player
and AUHS's Coach by saying that whether UA called him on false assertions or
not, my understanding is that Bama people did confirm Carter was actively
assisting in the process to get the kid away from Oxford and to his program.
Frankly, I don't begrudge a Coach from trying to improve his Team but the guy
evidently misled UA of his involvement. For those who claim to know what UGA people trying to set him up in an Atlanta-area High School to giving
Oxford High the finger and enrolling at AUHS. One thing I want to really hit on
the head is a response to people singing the praises about former AU player
and AUHS's Coach by saying that whether UA called him on false assertions or
not, my understanding is that Bama people did confirm Carter was actively
assisting in the process to get the kid away from Oxford and to his program.
Frankly, I don't begrudge a Coach from trying to improve his Team but the guy
evidently misled UA of his involvement. For those who claim to know what
everyone considers to be a guy with a great personality I'll say that a Man's
true character is who he is behind closed doors not just the person you spend
time with in a social setting.
The bottom line is that from my over 25 years of following this stuff, there
is very little to hang hopes of signing the kid next year. Consider that by
employing the Mom, you can literally pay her whatever you want and who can
challenge that? He's transferring from one AU stronghold to another where they
will control the kid through who many consider to be from the same clothe as
the infamous Lynne Lang and was run out of the state I reside, Georgia, for
corruption. UA hasn't given up and I hope we can convince him that he should
forego the short-term temptation for quick rewards with a better long-term
option with being developed by Saban & Co. but all signs are that Flowers has
him under his thumb.
My understanding is that UA would feel good if it were just left to the kid
but it doesn't appear that's how it's shaking out as of May '12. Add to that,
that my access to AU people here in Atlanta further confirmed what I was told
when the Dad of a former AU player who played in the NFL for many years,
actually boasted to me that his Son, still strongly connected to the AU
"Family," was assured that "Foster was on the way after some details were
worked out." Our greatest problem is the lack of a strong family support
system for the kid which has given Flowers the access and influence he is
using. If Smart lands Foster on Signing Day, give him whatever he wants because
I'm told as of right now, he and Saban are highly ticked about what's going on.
By the way, that's the clean version.
As someone I respect told me last week, UA should do it's best and move on if
the situation doesn't change because Pat Dye & Co. know that even with Foster,
AU has little chance of competing with UA as long as Saban has good health.
Their best and maybe only hope is dragging UA into a muddy situation which
would hurt the Program and possibly send the Saban's packing. The official
probationary period is over in a month or two and UA will dominate with or
without the kid. So, I think I've navigated my way through this topic in a
PG-13 explanation.
UA still leads for OJ Howard but word is a short Blonde may make it a tough
situation for UA and help AU but we'll see.

-The Marynowitz stuff was commonly known last weekend but everyone was told to
allow the University to release it so I guess that was amended. Saban will
just bring in someone who will be sought after too after working under him
a couple of years. He makes a lot of people more money.

-Smart wants the Georgia kid, Kamara and Pruitt is pushing for Henry so I
predict Saban will follow his pattern of taking the bigger and more versatile
prospect.
-Won't even touch the WR stuff so I'll beat anyone to the punch.

-Barrett Jones is not natural at Center which is keeping Stoutland busy. Jones
is not bad there but UA has to hope that Steen or a larger Kelly may give us
options there.

-Sometimes many posters including myself will overstate a situation but one
area that isn't an exaggeration is AU's focus on identifying Bama's key
targets and swooping in with promises that are legal or not. DeMarcus Walker
has been committed since Junior Day but Pelton said or did something to stall
that announcement out of the blue. His support system isn't happy with it
but the consensus is that UA will still ultimately land Nkemdeche's future
comrade-at-arms. I'm being told that High School Coach's have told UA that
AU staffers have openly commented that they can't allow UA to get certain kids
and as I posted last year, ESPN's Chris Mortensen will admit former AU Coach,
Malzahn, told him they couldn't allow UA to get the infamous DC.

-Bama staffers call CJ Mosely our best LB, period.

-Don't expect immediate dividends from Landon Collins because his High School
Coach's will tell you that pass coverage is his weakest area right now.
TJ Yeldon amazed the Staff with his toughness after he broke his hand on what
was called a cheap shot in a Drill by Brent Calloway. Evidently, the norm is
for kids to take 4-5 days to return after having a Screw implanted but the kid
came back the next Day and didn't miss a beat.

-I saw questions about Cyrus K and the extent of his Knee Injury and as I've
previously posted, he only had a partial tear not complete ACL tear.
-AU and the rest of the SEC is slipping further back because Saban has put a System in place that rivals many NFL Organizations. Yes, we have a superior Evaluation Program but what Dye & the rest can't duplicate is Bama's Player Development Program which is at a scientific level. Saban has personally identified issues with a certain Player which has helped them either Academically or Athletically which Chizik or whoever can't buy. As Ron Middleton told me years ago, "they're in big trouble."

-You know about proposed facilities improvements such as the Football-only Weightroom but what intrigues me even more is that evidently Saban would ultimately want to scrap the current Weightroom and turn it into a state-of-the-art Movie Theater unrivaled around the nation. The Man may be 60 but he is the greatest visionary UA's had in years or ever. By the way, this info may or may not have been discussed openly even to the BOT but came from the Man himself.
Posted by AMM AU9893
Auburn, AL
Member since Feb 2011
13789 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:14 pm to
I like how focused alot of that post is on Auburn
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35730 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:21 pm to
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Seems athletic WISH I could find some film can't find any

LINK
Posted by MagillaGuerilla
Nick Fairley Fan Club, Founder
Member since Nov 2009
35730 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:22 pm to
Some of us were hoping most of that wouldn't make it on here...
Posted by hubris
Member since Aug 2011
427 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:24 pm to
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I like how focused alot of that post is on Auburn


Didn't you know that Saban sits at the right hand of god, and Auburn is the residency of Satan himself?

Bama stacked SEC FUUUUUUUUCCKKEEEEDDDD
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108704 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:25 pm to
Blue Tuna offering inside bama info now. Nice
Posted by Defense
Member since Oct 2011
1071 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:38 pm to
quote:

Some of us were hoping most of that wouldn't make it on here...

Didnt know that. I will some of it sounds way off base.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 5/18/12 at 11:46 pm to
Not trying to start anything in the Alabama recruiting thread...


But srsly?
quote:

Consider that by
employing the Mom, you can literally pay her whatever you want and who can challenge that? He's transferring from one AU stronghold to another where they will control the kid through who many consider to be from the same clothe as
the infamous Lynne Lang and was run out of the state I reside, Georgia, for corruption.
quote:

As someone I respect told me last week, UA should do it's best and move on if the situation doesn't change because Pat Dye & Co. know that even with Foster, AU has little chance of competing with UA as long as Saban has good health
Yes, the man who can barely speak coherently is still the mastermind behind Auburn's success.
quote:

Sometimes many posters including myself will overstate a situation but one area that isn't an exaggeration is AU's focus on identifying Bama's key targets and swooping in with promises that are legal or not. DeMarcus Walker
has been committed since Junior Day but Pelton said or did something to stall that announcement out of the blue.
You mean Auburn is recruiting a 4*... general consensus one of the best DE in the 2013 class?
quote:

Yes, we have a superior Evaluation Program but what Dye & the rest can't duplicate




Don't worry 'bama fans... I feel the same way when the tard barners post the same shite.
This post was edited on 5/18/12 at 11:48 pm
Posted by Defense
Member since Oct 2011
1071 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:03 am to
I wonder where he got it from. Sounds like a ATPB tin foiler.
ETA: There saying over there it sounds like a BamaK email. Whoever that is.
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 12:05 am
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:07 am to
is that shite



Also, has Rob Foster committed yet?
Posted by Defense
Member since Oct 2011
1071 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:19 am to
Lets talk corners. Who do you all like.
MacKensie Alexander, (I like him the best out of these).
Vernon Hargreaves III
Brendan Langley
Maurice Smith
Posted by Sandkhan
Member since Jun 2009
8276 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 12:27 am to
It is Bama K. He's usually good on recruiting info, but he's always very heavy on pretty far out there corruption rumors. Dunno
Posted by JBearden
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2011
2666 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 1:09 am to
Maurice Smith !!!
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
Member since Nov 2009
19867 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 1:34 am to
Jeryl Brazil tweeted that y'all were after him pretty hard last nite... Got anything for me?
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 7:31 am to
I HATE Joey just as much as any Bama poster on here but in this case I have to agree
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 7:32 am
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 7:36 am to
Maurice Smith and Jonathan Cook are 2 of my faves

Hargreaves won't leave the state of Fla

Still don't like our chances with Langley, simply because he absolutely LOVED Bama after visiting, had us leading, and changed his tune pretty quickly once he got back home around fam and friends
Posted by Remy74
Member since Aug 2011
335 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 7:43 am to
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Tyren was absolutely dominant in Walton High School's spring game tonight. Think the announcer said he had 180 yards in 1 quarter of action. Walton admittedly has some big shoes to fill from a defense that included the likes of Zach and Darren Blaylock (both going to Kentucky) and several other D1 defenders but they are still a talented bunch with 247 Top 100 DB DJ Smith and others in the line up. WIth that said, Tyren showed why he is one of the top backs (if not the top RB) in the country. He looks the part as a 203-205lb RB who has maintained all of his quickness and burst from last season. He made one run for about 40 yards and my 12 year old son who fancies himself a pretty good football player turns to me and said dad, the average back gets maybe back to the line of scrimmage on that run. While I smiled at the fact that he is astute enough to pick up on that, the boy was absolutely right. Tyren's quickness and vision are rare for a high school RB. On his final TD run which was for about 80 yards on a 3rd and 8 play (Lol...passing down for most teams) he got to the 2nd level and then put a full speed cut on the aforementioned Smith that was just sick. Was sitting there by DJ's father along with Tyren's parents and we all were just in awe. While talking to the boys after the game it was either Smith himself or another kid that said the move was so quick that it was almost as if Tyren vanished into thin air and then re-appeared as he was streaking up the field. [Note: UGA RB coach was in attendance along with several others but likely there to check on Kublanow, Smith and QB Parker McCleod more so than Tyren because it is understood that Tyren is solid to Bama.]
On another note, Tyren plans to camp at Bama several times during this upcoming summer. He wants to get himself fully immersed in all things Bama football. You are getting a damn good RB and a really good kid.
Don't know if BBD made the game but if he did I am sure he will offer his own unique perspective.


I am BBD (BamaBornDukie) referenced at the end of the above post.

I agree 100% with this post. I'm old school and have seen a plethora of elite RBs in high school over the years starting as far back as the mid 1980s. The most recent super elite guy I saw play in high school was probably Marcus Lattimore. Also seen Kenyan Drake, Alvin Kamara, Tyshon Dye of recent Georgia RBs that were/are 4 star players.

Jones is the best of the bunch. If I could design my perfect RB it would be based on the paradigm of Tyren Jones. The one thing I might add is a little more speed as Jones is probably a mid 4.4/high 4.4 guy......I'd probably make my RB a low 4.3x guy. Otherwise, Jones has the ideal size and body structure. Kid is super strong and super elusive.

Bama fans will see soon enough how special this kid is. Barring anything unforeseen, look for Jones to break the Georgia Large Class Career Rushing and Career TD marks in 2012.
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 7:44 am
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 8:06 am to
TY BBD any other fball knowledge offered here is welcome
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13467 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 8:33 am to
Its hard not to see MacKensies film and not like him the best.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 5/19/12 at 9:45 am to
TY very much Mag, I'm assuming you've watched, would like to know what you think about Darius Paige

Here's my opinion:

Great upper body strength and explosion, makes lazy OL pay with violent hands, but horrible stance technique, almost a lean. disects run very well and is a very sure tackler, likes to play the run it seems more than the pass because of his technique, can push through double teams fairly easy, but that also needs work, won't be able to do it on SEC level, REALLY would like for the coaches to get him at camp and see against competition to earn the offer, but a physical specimen seems like with great feet and athleticism, reminds me a lot of a taller Josh Chapman, body type and athleticism like top 15 NFL Draft pick LSU DT Brockers IMHO

What do you think Mag?
This post was edited on 5/19/12 at 9:47 am
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