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re: ZERO Sympathy for Henry Ruggs - VIDEO Proves He Regularly Drove At Excessive Speeds.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:29 pm to ScoggDog
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:29 pm to ScoggDog
They are all still mistakes - please tell me what harsher word we are replacing with "mistake" for it to be a euphemism.
You seem to just be arguing that people aren't adding enough descriptors in front of the word mistake for your liking.
Most everyone I see is calling it a pretty terrible mistake, a grave error in judgement, etc.
Again, you are just arguing semantics to try and act like people aren't harshly judging Ruggs here.
You seem to just be arguing that people aren't adding enough descriptors in front of the word mistake for your liking.
Most everyone I see is calling it a pretty terrible mistake, a grave error in judgement, etc.
Again, you are just arguing semantics to try and act like people aren't harshly judging Ruggs here.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:39 pm to BasedTide
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Because he can run fast and jump and catch? Imagine if this was any other random person who DIDN'T play football
If he wasn't famous you wouldn't even have heard of this accident. Hopefully this puts a spotlight on drunk driving and makes a few people rethink driving while intoxicated.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:39 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Its not a euphemism if it fits the definition, and it does. You can tack whatever word on in front of "mistake," if you care to emphasize the severity of it. Does it really matter?
Yes ... absolutely it does. Because "mistake" implies "it could have happened to anyone". Not just anyone drives down a public street at 150 MPH.
At best - young Master Riggs routinely engaged in a behavior so heinous that we can't simply dismiss this incident as "well, Hell, it could have happened to anyone". No - it could not. Because as far as I know, Ruggs is the only person zipping down the road at 150 MPH. And he did it on purpose. He drove that fast, on a public street, on purpose.
Grab all the definitions you want. A "mistake" does not apply equally to "oh shite, I stepped in front of you in line, my mistake" and "oh shite, I was driving 150 MPH and you ended up burning alive, my mistake".
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:45 pm to ScoggDog
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Because "mistake" implies "it could have happened to anyone".
No it doesn't, not necessarily. No where in the definition of "mistake" does it have that criteria. You are simply making that up to fit whatever weird argument you are trying to make on here.
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Grab all the definitions you want. A "mistake" does not apply equally to "oh shite, I stepped in front of you in line, my mistake" and "oh shite, I was driving 150 MPH and you ended up burning alive, my mistake".
Actually, yes, the definition of "mistake" encompasses both of those scenarios.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:46 pm to lsufball19
Alabama fans have made no excuses for him. Bury that piece of garbage under the jail cell, I dont care
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:53 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Actually, yes, the definition of "mistake" encompasses both of those scenarios.
Then you're an idiot. Bernie Madoff just made a mistake while he was running a Ponzi scheme. He didn't intend to lose all those people's money. If his plan would have worked - everybody would have made 10%. Not his fault, really. Could have happened to anyone.
Now - let's get down to it. Why are you so concerned about the consequences of Young Master Ruggs killing a woman while cruising along at a cool 150 MPH ? Should we give everyone a little latitude ? You know, the speed limit is 55, and sometimes we all run 70 - but Hell, if you zing in and out at 150, as maybe you make a little contact but you didn't mean for them to hit the barrier and die but that's how it happened - well, shite, it's just as accident.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:55 pm to WilliamTaylor21
Says the guy who's apparently butthurt to the point of making shite up about people.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:56 pm to ScoggDog
Just a mistake. Ruggs was tooling along, minding his own, at 150 MPH. And he ended up hitting a woman, she burned to death. Man, it was just a mistake. Things happen, right ?
We all make mistakes. Maybe not at 150 MPH, but let's not obsess over that. All mistakes are equal. Some just cause a woman to burn alive. But mistakes are mistakes. Right ?
We all make mistakes. Maybe not at 150 MPH, but let's not obsess over that. All mistakes are equal. Some just cause a woman to burn alive. But mistakes are mistakes. Right ?
Posted on 11/4/21 at 12:58 pm to ScoggDog
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Just a mistake. Ruggs was tooling along, minding his own, at 150 MPH. And he ended up hitting a woman, she burned to death. Man, it was just a mistake. Things happen, right ?
We all make mistakes. Maybe not at 150 MPH, but let's not obsess over that. All mistakes are equal. Some just cause a woman to burn alive. But mistakes are mistakes. Right ?
It's weird that people these days think making a mistake doesn't make you responsible for the mistake.
Because I've never in my life thought making a mistake meant you weren't responsible for it.
Hell, I bet your parents still took responsibility for you.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:00 pm to ScoggDog
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Then you're an idiot.
K.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:01 pm to ScoggDog
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Then you're an idiot. Bernie Madoff just made a mistake while he was running a Ponzi scheme. He didn't intend to lose all those people's money. If his plan would have worked - everybody would have made 10%. Not his fault, really. Could have happened to anyone.
No... that isn't how ponzi schemes work, they are fraudulent by design.
IMO it is a mistake to commit fraud though, I find fraud to generally be misguided and wrong.
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Now - let's get down to it. Why are you so concerned about the consequences of Young Master Ruggs killing a woman while cruising along at a cool 150 MPH ? Should we give everyone a little latitude ? You know, the speed limit is 55, and sometimes we all run 70 - but Hell, if you zing in and out at 150, as maybe you make a little contact but you didn't mean for them to hit the barrier and die but that's how it happened - well, shite, it's just as accident.
I believe this is often called vehicular homicide.
The act of driving at 150 would be a mistake, very dangerous, highly negligent, etc. Various other descriptive words would also apply.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:05 pm to 3down10
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It's weird that people these days think making a mistake doesn't make you responsible for the mistake.
When your mistake - at 150 MPH on a public street burns a woman to death - then this quote ...
I'd imagine that its because he's been a good friend and person to many people, and has been charitable with his money so far, and people don't just drop and cut off their friends when they've made a horrible mistake. Just a hunch.
When you drive down a public street at 150 MPH - you're not a good person, pecker head. He didn't "make a mistake". He willfully engaged in a behavior so likely to kill someone that it's a miracle it hadn't happened sooner.
Bang this through your head. He's not a good person. And a woman burned alive because he is not.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:06 pm to Sneaky__Sally
I guess we've reached the point of discussing Ruggs where people are getting bent out of shape over semantics
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:10 pm to tiger perry
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Who drives 156 miles an hour while intoxicated?
Probably someone who regularly drives intoxicated. A normal person, who has never or doesn't drive drunk often, would be worried about just making it where they are going in one piece without getting arrested.
It takes an incredibly low IQ, extremely poor judgment, or false confidence gained from doing what he did multiple times and "getting away with it". It is likely a combination of all three.
I know a guy who regularly drove under the influence. He often bragged about how he could drive better drunk than sober. He "got away with it" for several years. That is, until one night when driving with a friend he wrapped his car around a tree. Both survived, but the friend had permanent brain damage. It changed both of their lives.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:10 pm to BasedTide
Ruggs BAC was probably higher than .161 during the crash.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:18 pm to ScoggDog
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When your mistake - at 150 MPH on a public street burns a woman to death - then this quote ...
I'd imagine that its because he's been a good friend and person to many people, and has been charitable with his money so far, and people don't just drop and cut off their friends when they've made a horrible mistake. Just a hunch.
When you drive down a public street at 150 MPH - you're not a good person, pecker head. He didn't "make a mistake". He willfully engaged in a behavior so likely to kill someone that it's a miracle it hadn't happened sooner.
Bang this through your head. He's not a good person. And a woman burned alive because he is not.
So you're an idiot who doesn't understand what the word mistake means.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:19 pm to lsufball19
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I guess we've reached the point of discussing Ruggs where people are getting bent out of shape over semantics
And that is why they continue to use the word "mistake". The word implies a context that there is room for doubt. That forgiveness should be owed. That nobody is immune from such a situation.
Henry Ruggs drove 150 MPH down a public street, and then hit a woman that then burned to death because of his actions. Nobody sane drives 150 MPH down a public street. Henry Ruggs is owed no forgiveness. He made a decision so outside the bounds of common sense that it's impermissible in a functioning society that dares create public roads.
If that's simply a "mistake" - then frick me, playing with dynamite, juggling chain saws, playing Russian Roulette are just "mistakes".
The very definition of "semantics". Choosing to argue over the textbook meaning of a word - and get this, there is no one superior text that holds all meanings to all words - rather than argue the issue at hand.
And that issue is Ruggs driving 150 MPH on a public street and burning a woman alive. Pure and simple. No debate.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:21 pm to ScoggDog
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And that is why they continue to use the word "mistake". The word implies a context that there is room for doubt. That forgiveness should be owed. That nobody is immune from such a situation.
This issue is you don't understand the meaning of the word mistake, which doesn't at all imply someone is not responsible for their actions.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:23 pm to ScoggDog
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And that is why they continue to use the word "mistake". The word implies a context that there is room for doubt. That forgiveness should be owed. That nobody is immune from such a situation.
You are creating your own interpretation of a word which has a specific definition.
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If that's simply a "mistake" - then frick me, playing with dynamite, juggling chain saws, playing Russian Roulette are just "mistakes".
Yes, all of those are mistakes. You are the only person adding additional context such as "a simple mistake", "just a mistake".
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And that issue is Ruggs driving 150 MPH on a public street and burning a woman alive. Pure and simple. No debate.
Yes, we know - he fricked up grandly, causing an innocent person to die painfully, causing great harm to his loved ones in addition to ruining his own life - quite a terrible mistake to have made.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 1:26 pm to ScoggDog
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The very definition of "semantics". Choosing to argue over the textbook meaning of a word - and get this, there is no one superior text that holds all meanings to all words - rather than argue the issue at hand.
SO I guess now you are going to argue semantics over the definition of semantics
But if you want to know what the dictionary defines as "mistake"
"an action or judgment that is misguided or wrong."
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And that issue is Ruggs driving 150 MPH on a public street and burning a woman alive. Pure and simple. No debate.
no one is debating that
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