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Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:48 pm to ScoggDog
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:48 pm to ScoggDog
I notice - none of the brilliant minds so sure of their definitions of the word "mistake" - have come forth to call what Ruggs did ... burn a girl alive after driving 150 MPH on a city street - as Manslaughter.
It would be so easy. Just type it. Especially for those so concerned with the accuracy of the English Language.
It would be so easy. Just type it. Especially for those so concerned with the accuracy of the English Language.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:49 pm to 3down10
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Yep, hope I never make a mistake that leads to it. I certainly do my best not too.
Yeah, I hope I never mistakenly get piss drunk and drive 156 mph through a busy city. Fingers crossed. I'll try my best.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:50 pm to BasedTide
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Yep, hope I never make a mistake that leads to it. I certainly do my best not too.
Yeah, I hope I never mistakenly get piss drunk and drive 156 mph through a busy city. Fingers crossed. I'll try my best.
I too don't want to mistakenly do it.
But I also don't want to commit the mistake of intentionally getting piss drunk and driving 156 mph through a city.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:52 pm to ScoggDog
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I notice - none of the brilliant minds so sure of their definitions of the word "mistake" - have come forth to call what Ruggs did ... burn a girl alive after driving 150 MPH on a city street - as Manslaughter.
It would be so easy. Just type it. Especially for those so concerned with the accuracy of the English Language.
I did that on page 7 - maybe elsewhere in this thread as well.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:53 pm to BasedTide
Gonna' be honest - at some point, Lew is going to delete this thread. Sorry, Lew. I know you hate the gig.
But let's keep this going. Since "mistake" is such a generic word - let's just call it Manslaughter. I want to see a few posters type it. You certainly shouldn't mind. Especially those of you saying "what's the argument ?".
I'll start naming names. I got all night.
But let's keep this going. Since "mistake" is such a generic word - let's just call it Manslaughter. I want to see a few posters type it. You certainly shouldn't mind. Especially those of you saying "what's the argument ?".
I'll start naming names. I got all night.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:54 pm to VaBamaMan
You have made some valid points and I certainly believe he deserves some love from people that know him on a personal level. But a good friend should be candid with him. He made several poor decisions and needs to own them to grow as a person.
My guess is about 15 years but prior to the second video, I thought about ten years. To let him off light is sending the message to young drivers it is ok to drive intoxicated while trying to scare the crap out of a girl. There is nothing OK about the outcome of his POOR decisions.
My guess is about 15 years but prior to the second video, I thought about ten years. To let him off light is sending the message to young drivers it is ok to drive intoxicated while trying to scare the crap out of a girl. There is nothing OK about the outcome of his POOR decisions.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:56 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I did that on page 7 - maybe elsewhere in this thread as well.
You did - involuntary.
At 150+ MPH - that shite is voluntary. But props to you for saying the word. It's not just a "mistake". Manslaughter does not equal Mistake.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:58 pm to ScoggDog
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Ruggs is guilty of Manslaughter and should receive the maximum sentence
Well, legally he's not guilty of manslaughter under Nevada code. He's guilty of everything they charged him with (1 count of DUI causing death, 1 count of DUI causing serious injury, and 1 count of reckless driving), and yes he should receive the max sentence for the crimes he committed.
Now, are you done saying people are defending Ruggs because you don't like the definition of a word?
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:59 pm to BasedTide
That video doesn't show shite except him dicking around in his car on an empty street. Article said the only traffic violations he's had were for driving with a Alabama license for over a year and driving on cell phone.
Here's your attention you queen.
Here's your attention you queen.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 2:59 pm to ScoggDog
I was trying to use the correct legal term (although I am certainly not an expert). See below regarding involuntary vs. voluntary manslaughter.
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There is an important difference between voluntary manslaughter and involuntary manslaughter. The term involuntary manslaughter is used to refer to the unintentional killing of a person. It might result from criminal negligence, recklessness, or misdemeanor.
The person who commits involuntary manslaughter does not want the victim to die. For example, a person who drives under the influence of alcohol may hit and kill a pedestrian, although killing him was not his intention.
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Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:02 pm to lsufball19
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Well, legally he's not guilty of manslaughter under Nevada code.
See ? Regardless - there's some folks that just can't say it.
I wonder, if Ruggs would have backed up the car, squirted in charcoal starter, and maybe did a dance - what would your learned reading of Nevada law be then ?
And y'all wonder why I argue so much over the word "mistake".
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:04 pm to ScoggDog
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You did - involuntary.
At 150+ MPH - that shite is voluntary. But props to you for saying the word. It's not just a "mistake". Manslaughter does not equal Mistake.
That's not how the law works.
Geez.
I'm an idiot for even trying to talk to you. Have a nice day, pick up a dictionary or at least google the words you use please.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:05 pm to ScoggDog
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You did - involuntary.
At 150+ MPH - that shite is voluntary. But props to you for saying the word. It's not just a "mistake". Manslaughter does not equal Mistake.
Here's the thing, you simply don't understand the difference in the legal definition of the words. "manslaughter" is a legal term. You need to know what manslaughter entails and what involuntary manslaughter entails before you start arguing the difference.
Manslaughter is the unlawful killing of a human being without malice. It is of two kinds:
Voluntary—Upon a sudden quarrel or heat of passion.
Involuntary—In the commission of an unlawful act not amounting to a felony, or in the commission in an unlawful manner, or without due caution and circumspection, of a lawful act which might produce death.
And here's why you don't want Ruggs charged with involuntary manslaughter. It's a Class D felony in Nevada. The sentencing guidelines are 1-4 years in prison. What he was charged with, DUI causing death, is a Class B felony and the sentencing guidelines are 2-20 years in prison.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:05 pm to ScoggDog
And we're still here - arguing over if Ruggs made a "mistake". It means more to you defending him than it does me. I'll stay here, quite literally, all night.
If it's not that big a deal - you could just stop. But you won't. Because you have to defend Ruggs.
If it's not that big a deal - you could just stop. But you won't. Because you have to defend Ruggs.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:06 pm to ScoggDog
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See ? Regardless - there's some folks that just can't say it.
manslaughter is a less serious offense in Nevada
Why do you want to see him go off so light? Don't you know he was driving 150 mph and a girl burned alive?!?!! Where is your compassion?!?!?! Why are you defending Ruggs??!?!
This post was edited on 11/4/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:07 pm to ScoggDog
I like - that we've moved from "mistake" to "voluntary or involuntary".
See how I did that ? That's called a Semantic Argument.
Doesn't change that Ruggs drives like a fricking murderer.
See how I did that ? That's called a Semantic Argument.
Doesn't change that Ruggs drives like a fricking murderer.
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:09 pm to ScoggDog
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See how I did that ?
by being an obnoxious twat
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:11 pm to ScoggDog
He will also face charges for killing the dog ! So sad Tina and her beloved dog were trapped, I hope her family gets every damn cent .
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:12 pm to BasedTide
One hand at the top of the wheel while using launch control 
Modern cars are really good at making people feel safe doing unsafe things!
Modern cars are really good at making people feel safe doing unsafe things!
Posted on 11/4/21 at 3:13 pm to lsufball19
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by being an obnoxious twat
YES !!!
Part of arguing is not accepting your definitions. You have to start, quite literally, at Hello.
Oh - you think I'm an obnoxious twat ? Well, get this, when we're talking about Ruggs driving 150 MPH and burning a girl alive - I feel quite all right playing the obnoxious twat.
Don't like me ? Don't care. Anybody defending the dude that burned a chic alive after driving 150 MPH isn't welcome at my BBQ anyway. Including the Ruggs family. Especially the Ruggs family - and those that defend him.
He burned that girl alive. There is no defense for that - or mitigation for those that defended him. He is, by definition, a bad person.
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