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re: Y’all thought we would shut it down after firing Wade?

Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:39 pm to
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
4022 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:39 pm to
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I’m really wondering if Level 1 allegations are a thing of the past now that NIL exists.


Never try to guess how an organization will react when they know their days are numbered. They might go out with a whimper but they may also try to go out with a bang.
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:39 pm to
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I may be wrong….but it’s my understanding that NIL does not have any clear guidelines as to what is ok and what is not ok.
It does, but, said guidelines are whatever the state law says in any given state.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19878 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:42 pm to
Memphis is reportedly facing four Level I and two Level II NCAA violations stemming from an 18-month investigation into the Tigers' men's basketball program.
The Daily Memphian obtained the notice of allegations and an amended notice of allegations from the Independent Accountability Resolution Process investigation. An infractions case involving former Memphis center James Wiseman was the first case accepted by the IARP in the spring of 2020.

Good for LSU hitting the ground running. Will his show cause hearing be before or after he joins LSU?
Posted by Sonofthetruth
Walker
Member since Dec 2015
1033 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:45 pm to
He’s not listed in anything. If you’d take the time and read for yourself you would know this.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American southerner
Member since Nov 2013
43102 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:49 pm to
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ex-NBA guy














:lol:


he was "in the NBA" as an assistant for 14 seconds


:lol:
Posted by Slackaveli
Fayetteville
Member since Jul 2017
15269 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 3:58 pm to
not exactly Muss, is it?
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 4:01 pm to
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most of which prevents schools from using it to recruit.


There is nothing in Nico’s contract that directly ties him to playing for Tennessee. So good luck penalizing a school for using it as a recruiting tool as everyone is following the same practice.
This post was edited on 3/26/22 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34681 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 4:13 pm to
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Let me get this straight- you are facing dozens of violations and had to fire your coach for LoIC, and you then hire a guy who is under investigation and also has been hit with LoIC as your ace recruiter?




Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19878 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 4:34 pm to
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He’s not listed in anything. If you’d take the time and read for yourself you would know this.


You didn’t believe the tPear stuff either did you?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30733 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:08 pm to
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There is nothing in Nico’s contract that directly ties him to playing for Tennessee. So good luck penalizing a school for using it as a recruiting tool as everyone is following the same practice.



Again, this is your misconceptions, not the reality. You are assuming that people are going to be able to force the NCAA into doing nothing because "everyone is doing it". Well, that's also what LSU fans were claiming. You can say "everyone is doing it", but the reality is if everyone is doing it - it's the ones that don't do it right that are going to get slapped.

Here are some of the rules that might be getting broken in that case.

1. The NIL contracts are supposed to be signed after the they are on campus, and the duration of them is not allowed to extend beyond their college career.

2. Contracts must be approved before being signed. You can't just up and give the money away, you have to show market value. So social appearances and all that have to match the value. For someone like that LSU girl who has a million followers, that's really easy. For other players, not so much. If a business would normally pay a guy $5k for such a thing, and suddenly they are wanting to pay $150k for this player, that's probably going to be an issue.

3. The places where there might be "loopholes" is with state laws, and I don't know how that's going to work. But the schools themselves are bound to their state laws. I'm not a lawyer and I don't know what all the laws are by state, but depending on the law in Tennessee, it could be an issue there, but not elsewhere.

We'll see. But my bet is the NCAA throws some punches here and there even if it's at minimum to keep the illusion that it's not being used for recruiting directly.


Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4757 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:18 pm to
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most of which prevents schools from using it to recruit.


So why am I am reading that Texas A&M spent $25 million and coincidentally getting the #1 recruiting class?
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:21 pm to
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Again, this is your misconceptions, not the reality. You are assuming that people are going to be able to force the NCAA into doing nothing because "everyone is doing it".


Lol no. Not what I said. Wrong. There’s zero tying these NIL deals to these schools is what I said.

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The NIL contracts are supposed to be signed after the they are on campus


Wrong.

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You can't just up and give the money away, you have to show market value


Wrong yet again.
Posted by KellerChrystFan
Member since Sep 2018
9630 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 5:22 pm to
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I'm not a lawyer


Yeah that’s pretty obvious.
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
4707 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:08 pm to
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LSU steals from childrens hospitals


why do you suckhole sissybitch muthafukkkas have such a problem with this…
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
8863 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:10 pm to
Memphis is facing NCAA violations....why...why...why would LSU go after a coach who's trying to escape the very thing that LSU's about to come under the hammer for???

Stupid is, stupid does.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30733 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:16 pm to
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Lol no. Not what I said. Wrong. There’s zero tying these NIL deals to these schools is what I said.



You literally said:

" So good luck penalizing a school for using it as a recruiting tool as everyone is following the same practice."


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Wrong.


NIL need-to-know: Answers to basic questions you have about new rules for college athletes

“Yes. Athletes are required to disclose all NIL deals to their athletic compliance department to ensure that the deal is in compliance with state NIL Law (or, in the absence of a state NIL law, the school’s own developed NIL policy). Many schools are utilizing apps like Opendorse and INFLCR, which act as streamlined portals for athletes to upload the NIL contracts so they can be reviewed and approved by the compliance department.”

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Wrong yet again.


From the link above:

Is anything actually illegal now?

Of course. It’s still the NCAA. Let’s say there’s a big booster that owns a car dealership. That booster still can’t say, “I’ll give you $50k to attend and star for my alma mater.” That’s still illegal. There are still going to be the same type of recruiting restrictions that have resulted in infractions and punishments in the past.

Aren’t there ways around that?

Yep. And they’re not even really loopholes, even though they might feel like it because of how we’ve been conditioned to think about the NCAA and “amateurism.” They’re just “legal ways to pay athletes for their services” now. In the above example, an athlete who signs with a school could immediately start a series of personal appearances and endorsements over his/her first year at the school and get paid a total of $50k. Probably couldn’t get away with $50K for one autograph signing — that’s not market value — but if it’s 10 appearances/promotions at $5,000 each? That’s all fine now, because it’s a player using his/her “celebrity” at a school to make money, not using his/her promise as a recruit to get encouragement money.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34681 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:18 pm to
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Memphis is facing NCAA violations....why...why...why would LSU go after a coach who's trying to escape the very thing that LSU's about to come under the hammer for???



Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30733 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:20 pm to
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why do you suckhole sissybitch muthafukkkas have such a problem with this…




Because they aren't a piece of shite is probably the most common answer to this.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130173 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:27 pm to
The ncaa will take care of that for you.
This post was edited on 3/26/22 at 6:28 pm
Posted by RumHam
Huntsville
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 3/26/22 at 6:30 pm to
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ex-NBA guy


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