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re: Would Bielema do better at a different SEC school?

Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:29 pm to
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with players who are far less talented. I don't see it working at all


while I agree, playing their game (bama/ LSU) might not be the smartest idea, 'far less talented' is just crazy... look at the offensive talent Arkansas has had go through its program the last decade... then look at who Beilima signed this past class.

I don't think he'll win championships at Arkansas, but it won't be because of his smashmouth style... it'll be because of a lack of talent on defense. Alex Collins will be money in their offense... and the OC and OL hires were very good.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:30 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:32 pm to
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look at the offensive talent Arkansas has had go through its program the last decade... then look at who Beilima signed this past class.


Are we talking about the three running backs, the two drug addict quarterbacks, the recent qb who's pro stature plummeted, and a host of receivers who we haven't heard from at the next level? Outside of the running backs, who exactly are we talking about. Shawn Andrews. I must be missing some others.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:34 pm
Posted by ocelot4ark
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:33 pm to
Please rank Wisconsin's prestige in relation to the rest of the Big Ten, including your assessment of their talent base. Or are you saying that Bielema should be able to beat Ohio State consistently in spite of a severe talent shortfall, for instance?

Seriously, this is the most asinine indictment of his coaching prowess that you simpletons string together. And that's saying a lot.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:37 pm to
off the top of my head...McFadden, Hillis, Matt Jones, Felix Jones, Mallett, Wilson, Nelson, Childs.... and they've put several OL in the league during that time as well.

You can't seriously be arguing against their offensive talent of late... they've had some explosing players, both in the running game and passing game.

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host of receivers who we haven't heard from at the next level?


btw, what does their success or failure at the next level have to do with anything? We're discussing Arkansas, not the Cowboys.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:40 pm
Posted by DC RaiseHerBack
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:39 pm to
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therick711


Obsessed with everything Arkansas


May be an overused statement on this board but you sir, truly have a problem.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:39 pm to
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the two drug addict quarterbacks


holy exaggeration- i guess jeremy hill really did rape that girl.


Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:40 pm to
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You can't seriously be arguing against their offensive talent of late... they've had some explosing players, both in the running game and passing game.


I didn't argue anything. Just pointing out there isn't that many. Who the hell is Nelson? The only name that rang a bell was the defender. Jerico Nelson.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:42 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:41 pm to
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holy exaggeration


Are we arguing that Matt Jones isn't a drug addict or that Ryan Mallet isn't? Or both?
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:42 pm to
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Seriously, this is the most asinine indictment of his coaching prowess that you simpletons string together. And that's saying a lot.


Butthurt much?
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37310 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:45 pm to
matt got arrested for coke way after his time at fayetteville. ryan was rumor mongering- no arrests no failed drug tests and not even a peep of bad press since he's been drafted. i'd say if he was an addict he must have rehabbed himself without us or the pats knowing about it. think that happened?


Posted by Arkla Missy
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:45 pm to
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Butthurt much?


No, over what?

Just calling out bullshite.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:46 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:46 pm to
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btw, what does their success or failure at the next level have to do with anything? We're discussing Arkansas, not the Cowboys.


The success and failure of the wide receivers was/is relevant because it can point out players that are the beneficiary of a good scheme, not necessarily supremely talented. Same can apply for quarterbacks. Think about some of the numbers put up by Texas Tech QBs and WRs under Leach. No one is knocking themselves over to claim that Cumbie, Kingsbury, etc. were super talented. They were mighty productive, though. That's all I'm saying.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:49 pm to
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No, over what?

Just calling out bull shite.


If you think this is the most asinine stuff posted about Bielemia, on the rant...you haven't been paying attention.
Posted by sugatowng
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:51 pm to
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The success and failure of the wide receivers was/is relevant because it can point out players that are the beneficiary of a good scheme


To be fair...Childs, Adams and Wright were in Petrino's first recruiting class and were rookies last season. Childs was injured in camp.

Mallett sits behind a HOF QB and Wilson could end up a starter as a Rookie

nice non-flaming post though
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22526 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:51 pm to
I'm not even sure what you're arguing... are Beilima/Chainey not going to run a 'scheme'? ...

They've had some good offenses and players of late (defense, not so much)... the point i'm making is that their new staff probably won't struggle to find offensive talent (see the signing of alex collins)
Posted by Arkla Missy
Ark-La-Miss
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:52 pm to
Sorry, all of the asinine stuff you simpletons string together tends to run together.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
63701 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:54 pm to
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In 02?


Well y'all did actually have a decent coach back then
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:56 pm
Posted by therick711
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:54 pm to
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They've had some good offenses and players of late (defense, not so much)... the point i'm making is that their new staff probably won't struggle to find offensive talent (see the signing of alex collins)


Your point was to think of "ALL" of them over the last decade. There weren't that many. Many were the beneficiaries of Petrino's good offense. McFadden, Jones, and Hillis were extraordinary. I guess what I am saying is your post was pretty fricking poor. Arkansas's bread has been buttered with a good, but importantly, different offensive scheme. Something just a little bit different. Their wildcat was very tough to deal with. Petrino's scheme has always been very tough on college defenses. I sort of thought they might go air raid. They went heavy run (presumably). It will be interesting to see how it plays out.
This post was edited on 6/13/13 at 2:56 pm
Posted by sugatowng
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Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:58 pm to
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the point i'm making is that their new staff probably won't struggle to find offensive talent (see the signing of alex collins)


I think we have some solid guys in the mix on the OL...Cook/Smothers had their choice of schools (now they gotta show out) and Swanson will be an SEC first-teamer...potential for all-american.

We have a couple nice receivers to compliment Williams/Collins and get back Small at FB that led the way for Davis break out season.

We just need Allen to live up to the billing he received out of high school or at least not put us in bad position. If nothing else, BB has proven that his teams will be in it to the end in most games.
Posted by therick711
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Member since Jan 2008
26097 posts
Posted on 6/13/13 at 2:58 pm to
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Childs was injured in camp.


That guy just can't catch a break, eh? Maybe I'm exaggerating, but hasn't he been hurt for three straight years?
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