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re: Worst coaches to ever win a NC

Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:32 am to
Posted by LSUalreadyknow
Texas
Member since Jun 2013
1703 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:32 am to
Your restarted Les Miles??? And if a coach wins a national championship he obviously knows a lot about football and there shouldn't be a "worst coach to ever win NC".
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35774 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:32 am to
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How is Les Miles on this list?


OP is a flamer
Posted by Wolfpacleader
Member since Jun 2011
1119 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:32 am to
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He fights with anyone and everyone that dares call Les anything but the greatest ever.

Well, Les is the best coach to have ever coached at LSU. Saban was good at LSU, but he didn't step it up to another level until he got to Alabama.

It kind of makes sense that LSU fans defend him, he's been pretty good while he has been here.
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:40 am to
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Guess that's why we outscored our opponents in '2011 - FIVE HUNDRED to 123. And only 63 of those 500 were NOT scored by the OFFENSE.
9 of those 13 teams were bowl teams. And only one victory was by less than 13 points....
Wowwwww...What """"luck!"""""

LSU's offense scored 392 points in 2011 with 4971 yards. In 2012 LSU scored 287 points with 4865 yards. LSU's 2009 and 2010 offenses were terrible.


As a comparison, AU's offense in 2009 scored 343 points with 5613 yards. An offense in its first year with a noodle-armed QB. Of course, in 2010 Auburn had 6989 yards and 504 points.
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:42 am to
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its a very weak argument and that component has been disproved.

Damn. Simply saying that it has been disproven without any evidence to do so is all that is necessary? I'll remember that.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:43 am to
I mean, it is a list of NC winning coaches, so no one is saying he sucks. Just several other BCS Championship winning coaches are better and a few are worse.
Posted by Jaydeaux
Covington
Member since May 2005
19530 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:49 am to
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If one is willing to separate themselves from emotion and be pragmatic, there is truth in the comparison. I could be biased and argue that Chizik wasn't terrible. However, looking at it objectively, he was


You're an idiot. There's NO comparing. GFY Troll
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:56 am to
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Speaks volumes about LSU's offensive history.

Yet Auburn STILL has a losing record vs LSU.

So does that speak volumes to LSU's prowess on defense historically, or Auburn's lack of defense historically?

You young guys are a scream. To you, if your team doesn't throw the ball all over the stadium, they suck. Tell that to Tom Osborne.

There's more than one way to win football games. Running the ball, playing opportunistic defense and fundamentally sound special teams will win you a lot of football games.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35774 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:57 am to
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LSU's offense scored 392 points in 2011


11 wins SEC champs

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In 2012


10 wins

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LSU's 2009


9 wins


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2010


11 wins


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AU's offense in 2009


8 wins

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2010 Auburn


14 wins*

lets not forget 3 wins in 2012

take out Cam and Chizik is compared to Ed Orgeron, Houston Nutt, Curly Hallman, Ron Zook
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
19207 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:58 am to
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3. Mack Brown
Coach with the easiest recruiting job in the nation


Texas couldn't recruit for shite before Mack got there
Posted by Yintros
Bateon Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
590 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:59 am to
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14 wins*

lets not forget 3 wins in 2012

take out Cam and Chizik is compared to Ed Orgeron, Houston Nutt, Curly Hallman, Ron Zook

I believe you're confused. I believe that Chizik is/was a terrible coach.
Posted by crawdaddy52
Member since Dec 2010
898 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 11:59 am to
Chizik, hands down. Last year his expression on the side line was priceless in it's cluelessness.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35774 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:03 pm to
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I believe you're confused. I believe that Chizik is/was a terrible coach


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I've actually always considered Les to be very similar to Chizik


so do you believe Miles is/was a terrible coach?

Posted by Vol Fan in the Bayou
Member since Nov 2009
4158 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:16 pm to
Not sure how you could put Les Miles on there. Les has managed to do a great job for a sustained period of time. There isn't a school in the country (minus Alabama) that wouldn't want him as their coach.

Frankly, if Saban would not have succeeded at Alabama Les would be considered one of the best coaches. Les's fault is that he is constantly compared to "What could have been". Thats a totally unfair comparison.

To boot, how could you leave Fulmer off that list?

I would rank the BCS era as....

1. Mack Brown

2. Phil Fulmer

3. Larry Coker

4. Gene Chizik

This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 12:24 pm
Posted by volfan30
Member since Jun 2010
41194 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:16 pm to
Fulmer probably belongs at #3.
Posted by tigers102886
Member since May 2008
1227 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:17 pm to
Best to Worst, in my opinion

1. Saban
2. Bowden
3. Meyer
4. Miles
5. Stoops
6. Tressel
7. Brown
8. Fulmer
9. Coker
10. Chizik
Posted by USMC Gators
Member since Oct 2011
14633 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:21 pm to
No Carroll?
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35774 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:22 pm to
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There isn't a school in the country (minus Alabama) that wouldn't want him as their coach.
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if Saban would not succeeded at Alabama Les would be considered one of the best coaches. Les's fault is that he is constantly compared to "What could have been". Thats a totally unfair comparison.



someone gets it

Posted by tigers102886
Member since May 2008
1227 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 12:29 pm to
Left Carroll off because championship was vacated.
Posted by texashorn
Member since May 2008
13122 posts
Posted on 8/1/13 at 3:41 pm to
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The myth of Texas is astounding

If second-most NCAA victories, top-5 win percentage, second-most bowl games, 32 conference championships and four national championships is a "myth," then the idea of A&M being a "national power" is a farce, nutgrabber. That means "joke" for the slow-witted.

By the way, if Fred Akers had coached in College Station (a Heisman, an Outland Trophy and Lombardi Trophy winner, and two near national championships in 10 years), there'd be streets named after him and aggie men in their 30's named "Fred."

I'm also confounded at how you left D.X. Bible off the list of great Texas coaches (you know, the same one you aggots are naming a whole corner of the stadium after).
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