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re: Worst coaches to ever win a NC
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:30 am to CassiusClay
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:30 am to CassiusClay
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moonbat
Don't know why, but this shite made me laugh.
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Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:31 am to WDE24
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Phil Fulmer
Larry Coker
Bob Stoops
Booby Bowden
Pete Carroll*
Nick Saban
Les Miles
Jim Tressel
Urban Myer
Gene Chizik
Mack Brown
Off the top of my head, I'd rank them from best to worst:
Saban
Bowden
Myer
Carroll
Miles
Tressel
Stoops
Fulmer
Brown
Coker
Chizik
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:31 am to Yintros
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I've actually always considered Les to be very similar to Chizik.
Most won't get past this statement, and that's what I'm hoping for.
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:32 am to elposter
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Off the top of my head, I'd rank them from best to worst:
Saban
Bowden
Myer
Carroll
Miles
Tressel
Stoops
Fulmer
Brown
Coker
Chizik
Miles above Tressel and Stoops? Yikes. I'd accept the contention that he may be replaced with Fulmer, but not those two.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:32 am to 615tider
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get passed this statement
Like a football?
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:32 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
The SECrant sure has had a hard-on for LSU lately
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:34 am to elposter
I ranked them by which coach would I go hire first to coach my team (ignoring age).
Saban
Carroll
Myer
Tressel
Stoops
Fulmer
Bowden
Miles
Brown
Chizik
Coker
Saban
Carroll
Myer
Tressel
Stoops
Fulmer
Bowden
Miles
Brown
Chizik
Coker
This post was edited on 8/1/13 at 9:36 am
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:34 am to Yintros
Larry Coker is doing a pretty good job of building up a team from scratch at UTSA.
Mack has a buttload of 10 win seasons at Texas and was solid at UNC.
Les is the one who got things rolling at Okie Light.
I don't any of those three are anywhere close to as bad as Chiz.
Mack has a buttload of 10 win seasons at Texas and was solid at UNC.
Les is the one who got things rolling at Okie Light.
I don't any of those three are anywhere close to as bad as Chiz.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:34 am to elposter
I like your list but would reverse Brown and Fulmer... Texas is the better football program, but Tenn is no slouch... look at the overall records and wins. Fulmer can't touch Brown.
Brown also has multiple BCSCG appearances and several other BCS wins outside of the national championship.
Brown also has multiple BCSCG appearances and several other BCS wins outside of the national championship.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:36 am to Yintros
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Miles above Tressel and Stoops? Yikes. I'd accept the contention that he may be replaced with Fulmer, but not those two.
I may have Miles a little high. But he is competing and winning in a tougher conference than Tressel and Stoops. I could go with either of those in any order. I think there is a definite top tier (Saban, Bowden, Myer, Carroll), then a middle tier (Miles, Tressel, Stoops, Fulmer, maybe Brown), then a lower tier (Coker, Chizik).
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:36 am to Yintros
I don't see how you put Mack Brown, Les Miles, or Bob Stoops on this list.
Mack Brown won at North Carolina, where few others have. He was 69-46-1 there. Florida State was the only reason he never won an ACC title. Overall he's 236-117-1 as a head coach with 1 BCS title and 2 conference titles.
Les Miles is 113-42 as a head coach with 2 SEC titles and 1 BCS title. He started the ball rolling at Oklahoma State.
Bob Stoops turned around an Oklahoma program that was at its lowest point ever. He won a national title in year two and is 149-37 at OU with 8 Big XII titles.
Mack Brown won at North Carolina, where few others have. He was 69-46-1 there. Florida State was the only reason he never won an ACC title. Overall he's 236-117-1 as a head coach with 1 BCS title and 2 conference titles.
Les Miles is 113-42 as a head coach with 2 SEC titles and 1 BCS title. He started the ball rolling at Oklahoma State.
Bob Stoops turned around an Oklahoma program that was at its lowest point ever. He won a national title in year two and is 149-37 at OU with 8 Big XII titles.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:37 am to roadGator
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Like a football?
YepPosted on 8/1/13 at 9:38 am to elposter
quote:I would put Bowden in the middle tier, but otherwise agree.
I think there is a definite top tier (Saban, Bowden, Myer, Carroll), then a middle tier (Miles, Tressel, Stoops, Fulmer, maybe Brown), then a lower tier (Coker, Chizik).
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:38 am to Yintros
You just compared miles to chizik. Holy fricking shite 
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:40 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I don't see how you put Mack Brown, Les Miles, or Bob Stoops on this list.
You're assuming that the list is examining hundreds of coaches. Someone(s) has to fill those slots.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:41 am to elposter
I'd squeeze miles between tressel and stoops. I hate tressel, but he is a good coach that has been overshadowed with some cheating that when you get down to it, honestly didn't really effect his coaching ability at all. Yeah, he lost a few bcscg's, but you have to look at like the 90's buffalo bills, he had to be pretty good to get there in the first place.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:42 am to Broyota2
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You just compared miles to chizik. Holy fricking shite
If one is willing to separate themselves from emotion and be pragmatic, there is truth in the comparison. I could be biased and argue that Chizik wasn't terrible. However, looking at it objectively, he was.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:45 am to Yintros
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If one is willing to separate themselves from emotion and be pragmatic, there is truth in the comparison
like what?
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:46 am to TigersRuleTheEarth
This link shows all the head coaches of all the #1 AP teams
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_National_Championship_Trophy
I'm not sure about the super old coaches, but the list is really solid.
Chizik and Coaker really are a clear #1/#2 in terms of worst HC ever to win a title.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AP_National_Championship_Trophy
I'm not sure about the super old coaches, but the list is really solid.
Chizik and Coaker really are a clear #1/#2 in terms of worst HC ever to win a title.
Posted on 8/1/13 at 9:46 am to IAmReality
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Chizik and Coaker really are a clear #1/#2 in terms of worst HC ever to win a title.
Nice guys finish last.
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