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Worse & Best 2nd Tier 2022 SEC recruiting efforts?

Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:45 am
Posted by FootsFanatic
Member since Aug 2021
1114 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:45 am
Well, we know who the elite recruiting teams were but which teams ranks as having the most disappointing recruiting class??? While maybe some others outside of the Top Ten faired well considering past performances?

The list of schools outside of the Top 10 includes Auburn, LSU, Florida, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss St, Vande.

I must say that Vande did quite well at #32 considering past years.

So who failed miserably? Which HCs were complacent? Most disappointing given all the hopes and predictions? Who continues to rise up the rankings to build upon for 2023?

Posted by TMRebel
Oxford, MS
Member since Feb 2013
5430 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:57 am to
Why did you spell Vandy like that?
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30902 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 8:59 am to
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The list of schools outside of the Top 10 includes Auburn, LSU, Florida, Missouri, Arkansas, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, Miss St, Vande.


Are you using the retard math they teach over at 8&4feit?

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Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41735 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:07 am to
Flashing bills isn't "elite recruiting", FYI.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36630 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 9:19 am to
Man, this'll be fun to throw back in aggy's face in 10 months.
Posted by sewaneerebel
Oxford, Ms
Member since Sep 2014
697 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 10:45 am to
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Man, this'll be fun to throw back in aggy's face in 10 months


This.

And who the hell is Vande?
This post was edited on 2/4/22 at 10:46 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:25 am to
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Are you using the retard math they teach over at 8&4feit?

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He's doing regular recruiting of High School kids, not portal players....and rightfully so. There will be portal changes after Spring practices, so any rankings including portal would not be complete.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53008 posts
Posted on 2/4/22 at 11:40 am to
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He's doing regular recruiting of High School kids, not portal players....and rightfully so. There will be portal changes after Spring practices, so any rankings including portal would not be complete.


Transfer players count against a class just as much as a high school recruit, to not include them because it will "change" in the spring means we should never post rankings at all as they always change eventually.

People who pretend transfers aren't a part of recruiting in 2022 are stuck in the past and it's only going to become a bigger part of the recruiting process.

But I understand OP is trying to troll because he's pissed.


This post was edited on 2/5/22 at 11:15 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 8:18 am to
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Transfer players count against a class just as much as a high school recruit

No thye don't. For one, every team has different numbers of transfer portal people. If you have the room you c an take as many transfers as you want. Secondly, recruiting rankings have always been restricted to high school. Transfers are transfers. As far as i know recruiting rankings have never included portal additions until this year, and they are keep separate.....for a reason. The only reason they have a separate ranking system is because of the NCAA allowance of raising the 25 man limit. Look at the disparity in numbers of players teams have recruited this year.

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People who pretend transfers aren't a part of recruiting in 2022 are stuck in the past and it's only going to become a bigger part of the recruiting process.
There will be more, but I doubt the NCAA will have the extra waiver of signing 7 extra kids.

I think it is legit to include all of the transfers as long as they are pointed out, but it is just as legit to not count them.


Posted by Shingo
Louisiana, USA
Member since Sep 2010
3876 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:11 am to
Wait, people troll because they’re pissed? You must be furious in your miserable life. But please continue
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53008 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:13 am to
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No thye don't. 


Yes they do.

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For one, every team has different numbers of transfer portal people. If you have the room you c an take as many transfers as you want. Secondly, recruiting rankings have always been restricted to high school. Transfers are transfers. As far as i know recruiting rankings have never included portal additions until this year, and they are keep separate.....for a reason. The only reason they have a separate ranking system is because of the NCAA allowance of raising the 25 man limit. Look at the disparity in numbers of players teams have recruited this year.


Well yeah...

The transfer portal is a relatively new innovation plus players can immediately play at their new school now.


Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:18 am to
Try and win something before we acknowledge you because you are still very far from being relevant
Posted by Shingo
Louisiana, USA
Member since Sep 2010
3876 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:19 am to
You are very far down the spectrum. Stop posting.
Posted by DaWGfan01
PCB FL
Member since Dec 2017
1471 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:25 am to
It would be simple to just have;

Class rankings based on incoming frosh only, coming from high school

Separate JC and portal incoming players team rankings.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:27 am to
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Well, we know who the elite recruiting teams were
yeah, those are the ones I am interested in since they were also the ones accused, accusing, and denying the paying of $30,000,000+ for players each year.

What happened to all those press conferences accusing and denyingeach other?

Looks like the AD lawyers did the same thing as when Rush Propst noted the exact same thing last March. They found a weaselword document for him to sign ("..no actual knowledge.. blah blah blah...).

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53008 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:28 am to
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It would be simple to just have;

Class rankings based on incoming frosh only, coming from high school

Separate JC and portal incoming players team rankings.


What's the difference?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:35 am to
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Yes they do.

No. They don't. This is what you said:
Transfer players count against a class just as much as a high school recruit

You can take no more than 25 high school players (with exception for back counting, blue, grey shirts etc)

If you are below the 85 player limit you can take as many portal players as you want.


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Well yeah...

The transfer portal is a relatively new innovation plus players can immediately play at their new school now.

Again we disagree. it isn't new. he way it is being handled is new, yes. But transfers have been around forever, almost. We have just now started calling it a transfer portal and just now started allowing them to transfer immediately...but transfers have been here for a long time.
Now, when you said the "transfer portal is a new innovation"...if you mean it is more organized and wide open...then I think we agree, just going by each other by semantics.

ETA

Perhaps I am not understanding the signing limits as per the portal? I am pretty sure you can sign as many players from the portal as long as you do not go past the 85 scholarship player limit, though.
This post was edited on 2/5/22 at 11:41 am
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32685 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:44 am to
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Most disappointing given all the hopes and predictions?


Did any of the schools in the conference start the season ranked in the preseason top 5 to only go 8-5 with a forfeit in their bowl?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:46 am to
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yeah, those are the ones I am interested in since they were also the ones accused, accusing, and denying the paying of $30,000,000+ for players each year.

I think you are confusing recruiting budgets with NIL?

Georgia had the biggest recruiting budget by a long shot.

But that pays for all expenses a player uses for travel, entertainment, promotional materials, everything. That money does not go to the players.

NIL does not come from the schools. It can come from their likenesses being used in games, jerseys', commercials, private appearances, autograph sessions etc from private businesses.

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Looks like the AD lawyers did the same thing as when Rush Propst noted the exact same thing last March. They found a weaselword document for him to sign ("..no actual knowledge.. blah blah blah...).



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He admitted he didn't know what he was talking about and even said he made it up to impress some players and parents. Probst is well known to be....well, let's just say he is not the most honest person around. Take anything he has to say with a huge grain of salt.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53008 posts
Posted on 2/5/22 at 11:47 am to
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No. They don't. This is what you said:
Transfer players count against a class just as much as a high school recruit

You can take no more than 25 high school players (with exception for back counting, blue, grey shirts etc)

If you are below the 85 player limit you can take as many portal players as you want.



False.

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As the rules are currently constructed, any incoming transfers count against the 25-man limit of a program's signing class.
That has forced some college coaches to choose between signing high school players, whom they can develop for the future, or transfers who can help on the field right away.


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Again we disagree. it isn't new. he way it is being handled is new, yes. But transfers have been around forever, almost. We have just now started calling it a transfer portal and just now started allowing them to transfer immediately...but transfers have been here for a long time.


Players previously couldn't immediately play unless they were graduate transfers, now they get a free transfer and can immediately play.

That's absolutely true.
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