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Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:50 pm to Ldrake53
Yes. But I think Boom tried to coach JJ too.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:52 pm to DTRooster
Are you mad or hurt? Hard to tell.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:59 pm to Ldrake53
I'm leaning towards no.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 12:59 pm to GTSwarms
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He has zero recruits. he is still having to use the left over garbage. Wait until he gets a few of HIS recruits under his belt to make an assessment
This is a huge cop out. The Barn has recruited lights out for years now. They have had a top 10 class for each of the last 5 cycles. The talent is there.
Steele isn't having any trouble with Chavis's recruits, so why should Muschump struggle so much?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:07 pm to Ldrake53
He is the best DC ever. Auburn needs to go ahead and give him a crazy contract like Bert has so we can watch Auburn burn like the last 2 schools Muschamp coached at.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:22 pm to Ldrake53
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:32 pm to sorantable
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Auburn's struggles on defense are probably stemming more from their shitty offense than a lack of quality defensive coaching.
bull pucky. defensive struggles are NOT due to offensive struggles. believe it or not they are due to the defense. when a kid misbehaves, it ain't his brothers fault.
the auburn defense I SAW WITH MY OWN EYES has a dearth of SEC quality athletes, esp at LB. their backers are slow as hell and do not seem to relish contact. their safeties do not support the run game well at all. as far as their db's, hell who knows as LSU sure didn't test them enough to notice. lastly their DL seemed ok but received virtually zero help from LB's or safteys.
auburn's offense is not as bad as LSU's was last year and we had the #1 D in the SEC (statistically).
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:34 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:There hasn't been a defensive coach on that staff that hasn't had trouble coordinating the defense since Tubbs was fired. Ted Roof/VanGorder/Ellis Johnson/Will Muschamp are NOT bad coordinators - they are a minimum decent coaches and CWM is a great DC. Yet every damn one of them had issues at AU.
This is a huge cop out. The Barn has recruited lights out for years now. They have had a top 10 class for each of the last 5 cycles. The talent is there. Steele isn't having any trouble with Chavis's recruits, so why should Muschump struggle so much?
The talent isn't being developed at AU. Rodney Garner is not a good DL coach. Muschamp will find out that AU has players that have a propensity to give up in a game.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:39 pm to RT1941
roof and vangorder are doing pretty damn good at notre dame and ga tech right now
Posted on 9/21/15 at 1:54 pm to sorantable
The offense did not give up over 11 yards per rush attempt, the D did. They looked like they had no confidence, and they couldn't tackle a tackling dummy. If you don't know how to tackle, that is on the coach.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:00 pm to Ldrake53
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I honestly thought he was; not so sure now. ( Auburn has a lot of injuries, and that matters even tho we say no excuses). Is it the lack of talented players or is it WM's scheme that is hurting Auburn's defense?
This is basically how Muschamp looked in his last season of being a Defensive Coordinator (look at the ppg of the 2010 Texas defense) he's not bad but he's a lot like say Charlie Weiss as an offensive guy-- unless he's in a very specific situation (tons of experienced players who are at least as talented if not more talented than the offenses they match up against; protected by a ball control offense) he's nothing special, he's not flexible enough to adapt so he'll just keep trying to ram a square peg in a round hole until it fits or something breaks.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:04 pm to SonofDye
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We have to give him a year. He did what Saban did when he got to Bama, he has ran off everybody that didn't have the physical ability or mindset to fit his scheme. Between running them off and the rash of injuries he is definitely behind the eight ball
You can do that when you're a head coach but man that sounds like a dumb decision for a DC to make especially one who isn't that great at talent evaluation.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:08 pm to DuncanIdaho
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It is the problem but not for the reasons all the tards here have been saying for years.
Is Muschamp included with the "tards" what with him being one of the people saying it was a problem and all?
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:08 pm to Vacherie Saint
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This is a huge cop out. The Barn has recruited lights out for years now. They have had a top 10 class for each of the last 5 cycles. The talent is there.
Steele isn't having any trouble with Chavis's recruits, so why should Muschump struggle so much?
Most of our highly recruited players tend to be on the offensive side of the ball.
Dline is a place to look. Personally, if healthy I believe Carl Lawson is as good as RN from Ole Miss. Think about what a single player like that can do for there best of a defensive line. Monty the only other high star player is playing to form this year for the first time each play.
Now the rest of them. On dline alone we have 0 guys playing from the 2011 class, 1 from the 2012 class, and only 3 from the 2013 class. Injuries and bust are the reasons but up front we have one 5 star producing and a bunch of borderline 4 stars and 3 stars. Two of them currently playing wouldn't play for any other SEC team. We have 2 freshman 1 5* and 1 4* showing promise but they are young and green.
LB's have been an issue since 2010. We have 2 senior 4* one of which was rated as an athlete and not a LB. We have one 5* who looks the best but has trouble getting on the field due to the seniors doing enough to stay in the game. Cass does his job a lot as a medium 4* but Frost is often in the wrong place.
DB's we knew we were young and we have several injuries. The Fresh show promise but it is a tough place to play young. We have a converted 4* running back and another 4* first year player. The rest are 3* outside of the freshman.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:09 pm to nc14
Why would I be either one, we haven't got run out of a stadium yet. You're just making assumptions on apples and oranges comparisons
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:11 pm to bamasgot13
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I'll give him his due here. He had following:
2014:
9th in yards per game
24th scoring D
2013:
8th in yards per game
15th in scoring D
2012: (his best at UF)
5th in yards per game
5th in scoring D
2011:
8th in yards per game
20th in scoring D
He had top 10 in yards per game each of his four years at UF.
He averaged 16th in scoring D during his time there
These stats are massively inflated by the offense he ran which grossly limited the number of plays the defenses in question faced, if you look at it in terms of yards per play only one of those units were truly elite.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:14 pm to Ldrake53
Muschamp is still living off of Saban's work at LSU. He has done almost nothing since them to warrant being called a great DC.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 2:17 pm to Ldrake53
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uburn has a lot of injuries, and that matters even tho we say no excuses). Is it the lack of talented players or is it WM's scheme that is hurting Auburn's defense?
No talent or depth. Auburn had 1 D2 level talent DE Gimel President, one always injured DE Carl Lawson, and one DT Monty Adams left from both the 2012 and 2013 recruiting classes combines. (only signed 2 DL total in '12 and 4 in '13.) We are basically on probation until we get that fixed. And the way our recruiting is going right now, it won't get fixed.
Posted on 9/21/15 at 3:13 pm to montanagator
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These stats are massively inflated by the offense he ran which grossly limited the number of plays the defenses in question faced, if you look at it in terms of yards per play only one of those units were truly elite.
I could see that (and did, last year in Bryant Denny), but it is more likely to be received by others coming from a Florida fan.
I like Muschamp as a coach and would be thrilled if he was on the Bama staff, but I don't necessarily think he is this defensive wizard who just automatically brings greatness on that side of the ball. He needs players and he doesn't have that many at AU right now. He'll get them tho.
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