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re: Will Fulmer make a smart hire?

Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am to
Posted by Rip N Lip
What does my VPN say?
Member since Jul 2019
5227 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:04 am to
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madmaxvol


If you're going to live in the past, at least get the record straight hillbilly.

Fatlock vs BAMA 10-5-1

Fatlock vs Saban 1-4

I can't wait for Phillip Bag O Donuts to have to pay Jeremy Pruitt to return to Alabama as defensive coordinator. Jeremy's done exactly what the REC has instructed him to do to the slUT "program".
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:13 am to
i have said this before i will say it again

Firing Pruitt would be the only thing worse than keeping Pruitt. If we fire him, no one worth a damn comes to coach and we will be stuck with the buyout and some retread or some "up and comer" coach who we will overpay and then wait 3-5 years and back to it again

The last thing we need to do is fire him just to fire him. Without a plan in place, our coaching search will end up being a joke as usual.

We have really dug ourselves a hole but I honestly think the only thing we can do right now is give him some time and let him salvage the recruiting class. If we end up going 2-10 and the recruiting class falls apart then I may revisit the idea of firing him because at that point there'd be no hope for the future.

#HarrisonBaileyOrBust
This post was edited on 10/1/19 at 11:15 am
Posted by Tau Neutrino
Franklin, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2019
734 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:14 am to
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have they completely given up?

This. VOLS pigskin is dead
Posted by Tau Neutrino
Franklin, Tennessee
Member since Aug 2019
734 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:15 am to
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Firing Pruitt would be the only thing worse than keeping Pruitt.

Thank you. I'm tired of the university wasting money on this shite
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:32 am to
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Phil Fulmer vs Alabama - 11-5


Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:34 am to
Bill Clark would be a great hire. I'd do it right after UAB beats Tenn.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:36 am to
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Bill Clark would be a great hire. I'd do it right after UAB beats Tenn


Your sources saying Chip Kelly to UAB after VOLS hire Bill Clark?
Posted by Commander Data
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 11:42 am to
I think Pruitt deserves and gets four years. When his players are juniors and seniors he will himself have his feet good and wet by then so we will have an idea about whether another four years are warranted. I would love to have him back at Bama so I hope he gets fired but it just won't happen.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16398 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:01 pm to
I haven't followed Tenn's demise at all. Just really surprised at what's happened - maybe a little saddened that's it come to this.

So rather than start another thread on it:
1) Does CJP just not have the players?
2) Is he just in over his head? Hard to imagine someone who's been around such strong programs being that inept.
3) Bad staff - I thought he had some good assistants? No?
4) I've seen conspiracy posts, i.e., CJP is tanking the program but this makes no sense. If he fails there like he's doing, his HC'ing career is pretty much over. If he has plans beyond UTenn, he needs to get his act together.
5) Is UTenn so financially committed that they're stuck with Pruitt for now?

Would be interesting to see if/when UTenn gets back how they did it. Golden opportunity for somebody.
Posted by VFL1800FPD
Nashville, TN
Member since Aug 2012
9056 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:31 pm to
1) We do not have the players. Cupboard was very bare when he took over (more than pretty much anyone realized). Biggest issue is on the lines. CBJ recruited 265 lb TEs and tried to convert them to Guards. Neglected D Line recruiting. Pruitt addressed with a great OL haul in 1st class and is working on Defense but the horses we do have are young. On the bright side, most of the players doing well this year are Pruitt recruits. Will take time to get the Butch stink off (hence all those transfers youve read about). Skill players and back 7 on Defense are actually pretty solid. Defense has been playing decent this year but it gets overshadowed because of timely mistakes. \

QB play has sucked this year. If JG plays at the same level he did last year, we are 3-1. Somehow has gotten worse even though the line is better. He threw 3 picks total last season and has already thrown more than that this year. Missing wide open receivers, hurling screen passes at 200 mph. We are not sure whats going on.

Skill players are damn good but that depends on QB getting them the ball

2) He is definitely in over his head due to the scope of the job and the fact that its his first HC gig ever. However, I think he is learning on the job. Smart was a first time HC, Fulmer was, etc. He can overcome this, although he is in a fishbowl at UT so that makes it tough.

3) He has a good staff. Defense has been playing decent except for a couple (huge) mental errors. Jim Cheney has had success wherever he goes but when he cant trust the QB to throw the ball 5 yards he is really hamstrung on playcalling.

A few of the other staff haven't been recruiting up to standard so i think we will see a couple departures after this season. But overall the core is very strong.

4) You are correct, this is nonsense. Pruitt doesn't want to fail. He has won everywhere he has been, he is a fiery competitor, and he hates losing more than anyone.

5) We can afford it, however it would be a terrible idea to fire him unless we have a generational type coach lined up to replace him. If you fire a first time HC after 2 seasons who the heck is going to replace them? The last thing we need is another coaching search. Let Pruitt get this recruiting class together, maybe find some success at the back end of our schedule, and see what we can do. If the season ends and we are 2-10 then i might change my tune but right now its a wait-and-see. Weve had 5 coaches since 2008 and there were only 2 in the previous 31 years. We dont need another one yet.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
18201 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 12:54 pm to
Trust the process

Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
Member since Feb 2011
22087 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:26 pm to
You put “Fulmer” and “smart” in the same question.

Ha.

Posted by mtopdawg421
Middle GA
Member since Aug 2017
984 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:28 pm to
Smart Hire? No


Fart Fire? Evidence points to yes.
Posted by Guitarcheese
Lakesite, TN
Member since Jul 2015
1463 posts
Posted on 10/1/19 at 1:36 pm to
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If you're going to live in the past, at least get the record straight hillbilly.

Fatlock vs BAMA 10-5-1

Fatlock vs Saban 1-4

I can't wait for Phillip Bag O Donuts to have to pay Jeremy Pruitt to return to Alabama as defensive coordinator. Jeremy's done exactly what the REC has instructed him to do to the slUT "program".


you seem really mad about something?
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