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re: Why we should not have a CFB playoff
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:47 pm to accnodefense
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:47 pm to accnodefense
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It's true. They colored in the national championship portion on their pyramid, and the rings are going to say national champions I think. There's really nothing the NCAA can do about it since they don't recognize a champion
wow. and the irony of your sig is extraordinarily up there now. Is there anything that at least awarded them the championship?
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Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:47 pm to accnodefense
quote:I like TCU and support Patterson, but this isn't the greatest way to be taken seriously, IMO. I think it cheapens the accomplishment of the team to claim a national title.
It's true. They colored in the national championship portion on their pyramid, and the rings are going to say national champions I think. There's really nothing the NCAA can do about it since they don't recognize a champion
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:48 pm to accnodefense
2006 Rose Bowl Highlights Part 1
2006 Rose Bowl Highlights Part 2
2006 Rose Bowl Highlights Part 3
You can't honestly watch those and say that the 2011 BCS National Championship was more exciting and the best of all the BCS title games.
2006 Rose Bowl Highlights Part 2
2006 Rose Bowl Highlights Part 3
You can't honestly watch those and say that the 2011 BCS National Championship was more exciting and the best of all the BCS title games.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:49 pm to ohiovol
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I like TCU and support Patterson, but this isn't the greatest way to be taken seriously, IMO. I think it cheapens the accomplishment of the team to claim a national title.
I will sound biased here because I'm an Alabama fan, but why shouldn't TCU claim a title? They went 14-0, just like Auburn, and they beat a heavily favored #3 Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:52 pm to RollTide1987
quote:Because they weren't national champions.
I will sound biased here because I'm an Alabama fan, but why shouldn't TCU claim a title? They went 14-0, just like Auburn, and they beat a heavily favored #3 Wisconsin team in the Rose Bowl.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:56 pm to ohiovol
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Because they weren't national champions.
What makes a team a national champion? TCU has had back-to-back undefeated regular seasons. They have done everything that has been asked of them. Boise State and TCU both started out above Auburn in the rankings and yet TCU and Boise ended up being jumped by Auburn as well as by other teams.
This is why I fully endorse a playoff. I believe that teams like TCU and Boise State should get a fair shake. They get screwed while Independents like Notre Dame only have to win 9 games to get into a BCS game. Boise State and TCU have to run the table or they get stuck in the Humanitarian Bowl.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 9:59 pm to RollTide1987
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What makes a team a national champion? TCU has had back-to-back undefeated regular seasons. They have done everything that has been asked of them. Boise State and TCU both started out above Auburn in the rankings and yet TCU and Boise ended up being jumped by Auburn as well as by other teams.
This is why I fully endorse a playoff. I believe that teams like TCU and Boise State should get a fair shake. They get screwed while Independents like Notre Dame only have to win 9 games to get into a BCS game. Boise State and TCU have to run the table or they get stuck in the Humanitarian Bowl.
I want a playoff. I just loathe the idea of automatic bids. A team has to earn their spot and not get one because they played in a shitty conference. A playoff with the top 8 teams ranked in the BCS would be a dream come true for me.
This post was edited on 2/6/11 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:00 pm to RollTide1987
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They have done everything that has been asked of them
except schedule better opponents.
With this logic, you wouldn't have any issue with Auburn claiming 2004 then? Don't be stupid here, we don't claim it and I hope we never do. If they want to buy their own rings and run around saying they were champions to feel better, fine. But, in the end, all it does it make them a laughing stock.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:02 pm to RollTide1987
quote:At the moment? Finish at the top of the AP or Coaches Poll. It may not always have been that way, but it is right now. I agree that TCU did deserve a shot, but they still weren't national champions this year.
What makes a team a national champion?
This post was edited on 2/6/11 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:04 pm to ohiovol
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I agree that TCU did deserve a shot
In our current system, over who? Us or Oregon? Auburn played a top 10 toughest schedule in the nation and won everything in front of them. Oregon beat the shite out of everyone they played except that they really didn't play but one or two good teams.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:13 pm to ohiovol
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I like TCU and support Patterson, but this isn't the greatest way to be taken seriously, IMO. I think it cheapens the accomplishment of the team to claim a national title.
TCU #1 according to Congrove Computer Rankings: LINK
I've never heard of the Congrove Computer Rankings before today.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:16 pm to HogKing111
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TCU #1 according to Congrove Computer Rankings: LINK
I've never heard of the Congrove Computer Rankings before today
well i guess in their defense, Bama claims 4 or 5 from a nothing group that isn't around anymore.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:17 pm to Warfarer
quote:Neither. I'd like a plus 1 or 4 team playoff.
In our current system, over who? Us or Oregon? Auburn played a top 10 toughest schedule in the nation and won everything in front of them. Oregon beat the shite out of everyone they played except that they really didn't play but one or two good teams.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:18 pm to Warfarer
quote:It's different for the past. The AP/Coaches Poll weren't always the the poll you needed to win to be considered national champions. It is now, but it wasn't always like that.
well i guess in their defense, Bama claims 4 or 5 from a nothing group that isn't around anymore.
Posted on 2/6/11 at 10:31 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:How does a playoff eliminate automatic bids? Look at Seattle this year in the NFL. Even with a playoff, you're still going to have teams like UConn getting an bid into a playoff. That's a requirement for a NCAA sponsored and approved NC -see March Madness with every conference champ getting an invite.
I want a playoff. I just loathe the idea of automatic bids. A team has to earn their spot and not get one because they played in a shitty conference.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 12:27 am to Bench McElroy
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I just loathe the idea of automatic bids
Posted on 2/7/11 at 3:43 am to ohiovol
The thing that hurst college football is that teams outside of the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and Pac 10 know if they lose a single game they are out of contention. If you lose your first game, the dreams of a NC are over even if you win out.
Posted on 2/7/11 at 7:52 am to smanderson1
Everyone knows that a playoff system is badly needed,,thats the only way a TRUE national champion will ever be crowned...if your team is as good as you say it is,it shouldnt matter how they get to the NCG..
Im all for a legit playoff system in college football.......
Im all for a legit playoff system in college football.......
Posted on 2/7/11 at 8:01 am to TheLoupGarou
Did I miss something? The NFL shorten it's season to 13 games?
Posted on 2/7/11 at 8:04 am to snake1
I'm not in favor of ruining the best regular season in all of sports. Any playoff should be small. The biggest I'd want to see is 6 teams. 8 teams with no auto-bids wouldn't be the worst. A 16 team playoff sounds awful.
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