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re: Why wasn’t Brandon Miller charged? Legal experts say it comes down to intent - AL.com
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:35 pm to RollTide1987
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If your personal gun is in my car and you call me asking for it back, I'm not going to ask questions. I'm going to bring it to you because it's yours.
LMFAO, you can’t be serious
No questions asked?
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Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:36 pm to Tuscaloosa
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Look at the downvotes this post received simply for providing an expert quote from the article.
That pretty much says it all about the opposing fanbases on this site and their feelings on this case. Reminding them that Miller hasn't been charged with jaywalking much less an accessory to murder doesn't work for them.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
It’s pointless to even debate this anymore.
What they want to be true is Nate Oats is building a squad of assassins and illegally using Bama funds for their training.
What they want to be true is Nate Oats is building a squad of assassins and illegally using Bama funds for their training.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:37 pm to Bodie
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LMFAO, you can’t be serious
No questions asked?
If your best friend were to call you right now and ask you for his rifle back, are you going to ask him why he wants his own property back?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:37 pm to Tuscaloosa
Theres a lot of insinuation that Miller did more than he really did. The story makes it sound like he borrowed the gun and was asked to return it, or that he went to get it to bring it.
In addition the similarities between the names Miles and Miller has led to misattributions of the “its loaded” quotes to Miller when actually Miles said them. Miles knew it was loaded because it is his gun. Miller may or may not have even known if it was loaded (although Im sure he did, as you generally know if your friend is the kind who carries a loaded gun all the time). If you misunderstand Miles’ quotes to Davis as coming from Miller, it sounds like Miller made sure it was loaded.
What happened is that Miles carried a loaded gun on him, and possibly does all the time. Miller drives them to a club but Miles decides not to take the gun with him there, so its left in Millers car since he drove. The gun was supposed to just sit there until they got back to the car and it would be in Miles’ possession again. However, it seems Miller decided not to go to the club after all, so he left them there and drove away in a car that now has Miles’ gun in it. Presumably, Miles would just get his gun when Miller next picks him up at the end of the evening.
Miles later texts Miller that he needs his gun, Miller drives up, and it is Miles that tells the other guy (Davis) where the gun is and that it is loaded with one in the chamber. The text message or any extra testimony from someone else (which doesn’t seem to exist) is really all they will have to go on to decide whether Miller intended to bring the gun for them to use it. I think probably there is some evidence of a crime with the text, but its open to interpretation and is not a slam dunk by any means and it may be more valuable for the DA to have Miller testify what happened which might not be possible if he is also on trial.
In addition the similarities between the names Miles and Miller has led to misattributions of the “its loaded” quotes to Miller when actually Miles said them. Miles knew it was loaded because it is his gun. Miller may or may not have even known if it was loaded (although Im sure he did, as you generally know if your friend is the kind who carries a loaded gun all the time). If you misunderstand Miles’ quotes to Davis as coming from Miller, it sounds like Miller made sure it was loaded.
What happened is that Miles carried a loaded gun on him, and possibly does all the time. Miller drives them to a club but Miles decides not to take the gun with him there, so its left in Millers car since he drove. The gun was supposed to just sit there until they got back to the car and it would be in Miles’ possession again. However, it seems Miller decided not to go to the club after all, so he left them there and drove away in a car that now has Miles’ gun in it. Presumably, Miles would just get his gun when Miller next picks him up at the end of the evening.
Miles later texts Miller that he needs his gun, Miller drives up, and it is Miles that tells the other guy (Davis) where the gun is and that it is loaded with one in the chamber. The text message or any extra testimony from someone else (which doesn’t seem to exist) is really all they will have to go on to decide whether Miller intended to bring the gun for them to use it. I think probably there is some evidence of a crime with the text, but its open to interpretation and is not a slam dunk by any means and it may be more valuable for the DA to have Miller testify what happened which might not be possible if he is also on trial.
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:38 pm to RollTide1987
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I find it hard to believe Miles texted Miller and Miller just ran to the scene without calling Miles to ask why he needed the gun.
If your personal gun is in my car and you call me asking for it back, I'm not going to ask questions. I'm going to bring it to you because it's yours.
Even if you know I'm drunk on the strip at 1:30 a.m.? That seems irresponsible. Why not return it in the morning?
If the phone records show there were calls between Miles and Miller prior to the shooting the DA should be asking him what was discussed.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:40 pm to RollTide1987
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If your best friend were to call you right now and ask you for his rifle back, are you going to ask him why he wants his own property back?
For my, his, anyone he’s around’s safety im going to ask some context
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:40 pm to Imber
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Even if you know I'm drunk on the strip at 1:30 a.m.?
How do you know that I know you are drunk? Did you tell me?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:42 pm to JJxvi
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more valuable for the DA to have Miller testify what happened which might not be possible if he is also on trial.
exactly. he's the key witness that threw the other 2 under the bus.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:42 pm to Bodie
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For my, his, anyone he’s around’s safety im going to ask some context
Well then you are less trustworthy than I am. I feel like I know my best friend well enough that if he asked for his gun back I would give it back to him with no questions asked.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Well then you are less trustworthy than I am. I feel like I know my best friend well enough that if he asked for his gun back I would give it back to him with no questions asked.
If my friend text me at 1:30 in the morning needing his gun back, my first question would be "Are you alright?".
Because, you know, friends generally check in like that.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:44 pm to RollTide1987
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Even if you know I'm drunk on the strip at 1:30 a.m.?
How do you know that I know you are drunk? Did you tell me?
Because he had already been out with them. Miles told the authorities he can't even remember what happened because he drank too much tequila. I can actually believe that after getting drunk on tequila my share of times.
If you called me right now and asked me to return your rifle I wouldn't ask questions. It's 1:43 p.m. If you called me at 1:30 a.m. from the strip and I knew you had been drinking I'd definitely be asking questions.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:44 pm to JJxvi
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The story makes it sound like he borrowed the gun and was asked to return it
ETA: Just read the rest of you post
This post was edited on 2/22/23 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:45 pm to RollTide1987
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feel like I know my best friend well enough that if he asked for his gun back I would give it back to him with no questions asked.
You guys are truly delusional dipshits. I have no words
Does sportsball really matter that much that you believe this goofy shite you’re typing?
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:47 pm to monsterballads
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exactly. he's the key witness that threw the other 2 under the bus.
They shot and killed someone and involved him. You saying he should've kept his mouth shut? This isn't The Wire.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:48 pm to Imber
quote:You don’t think this has already happened?
If the phone records show there were calls between Miles and Miller prior to the shooting the DA should be asking him what was discussed.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:48 pm to BluegrassBelle
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If my friend text me at 1:30 in the morning needing his gun back, my first question would be "Are you alright?".
Maybe he did.
We don't know all the facts because all we have is testimony from a preliminary hearing. Have you seen the text conversation Miller and Miles had that night? Perhaps Miller asked these questions and Miles straight up lied to him to get him to come back to him with his gun.
We don't know.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:50 pm to Bodie
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Does sportsball really matter that much that you believe this goofy shite you’re typing?
I really couldn't care less about basketball. I'm only in this thread because it's fun watching you guys get so upset and bent out of shape to our replies.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:51 pm to Marktastic86
quote:If you are going to attribute it to “They”, what act causes Miles to be included, but Miller to be excluded?
They shot and killed someone
That’s a pretty fine line the DA drew between the two where one escapes any responsibility and the other is being charged with capital murder.
I’m not saying the DA was wrong to draw the line where he/she did, but it’s worthy of questioning.
Posted on 2/22/23 at 1:53 pm to RollTide1987
You’re adding a lot of facts without any evidence. Nice deflection attempt, but it’s not going to work.
Miller is going to be suspended or you guys are gonna hear about this forever.
Comes down to how much the administration really cares about innocent human lives being taken. But for Miller’s actions, the victim would still be here.
Miller is going to be suspended or you guys are gonna hear about this forever.
Comes down to how much the administration really cares about innocent human lives being taken. But for Miller’s actions, the victim would still be here.
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