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re: Why some of you want 4 Pods over 2 Divisions?

Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:57 am to
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:57 am to
I like playing all of the schools and visiting all of the stadiums in a shorter time frame. Playing at a stadium in the other division once every 12 years doesn't work for me.
Posted by Purplehaze
spring, tx
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:33 am to
In exchange for a bigger contract, ESPN will require a more unique inventory of games to show. If you put Texas and Oklahoma in a West division, depending on permanent opponents, it could take them 9 to 10 years before they play Georgia and Florida. ESPN will want these marquee match ups to happen much quicker and more often in order to provide compelling reason for more viewers.
Posted by biclops
Member since Oct 2011
6149 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 4:29 pm to
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That's certainly a claim that some have made but an aggregate system can fix a tie-breaker. My guess is that you would prioritize it like this:

1.) Result of head-to-head matchup.
2.) Record against common opponents.
3.) Point difference between common opponents.
4.) AP or CFP rankings.


I wasn't talking about the logistics of determining champ game participants. I was talking about NCAA rules regarding conf. champ games. But then again, I think the Big 12 hasn't had divisions for a minute but they have still had a CCG?
Posted by UAinSOUTHAL
Mobile,AL
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:16 pm to
Pods give the chance for each student athlete a chance to play against every other SEC school since they would be on a 4 year rotation.

Can you imagine superstars like Waddle or D. Smith never getting a chance to play say LSU or Texas. That would be a shame. For that reason alone pods is superior to divisions.

We can have North/South/East/West pods and it would all make sense.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:22 pm to
With a 12-team playoff possibly coming soon, I wonder if the SEC is considering moving to a 10-game conference schedule.

We had a dry run of a 10-game schedule this past year, and it went fine.

With a 10-game schedule, you could keep the two divisions and also have a decent rotating schedule. They could even keep permanent cross-division opponents and make it work.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

lowhound
Why some of you want 4 Pods over 2 Divisions?
I like playing all of the schools and visiting all of the stadiums in a shorter time frame. Playing at a stadium in the other division once every 12 years doesn't work for me.




Then you want pod/group/quadrant scheduling & NOT divisions.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:35 pm to
quote:

UAinSOUTHAL
Why some of you want 4 Pods over 2 Divisions?
Pods give the chance for each student athlete a chance to play against every other SEC school since they would be on a 4 year rotation.

Can you imagine superstars like Waddle or D. Smith never getting a chance to play say LSU or Texas. That would be a shame. For that reason alone pods is superior to divisions.

We can have North/South/East/West pods and it would all make sense.


Depends on what you do with pods. If you're going by ESPN's example, you're putting DSOR as every OTHER year.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Eat Your Crow
Why some of you want 4 Pods over 2 Divisions?
With a 12-team playoff possibly coming soon, I wonder if the SEC is considering moving to a 10-game conference schedule.

We had a dry run of a 10-game schedule this past year, and it went fine.

With a 10-game schedule, you could keep the two divisions and also have a decent rotating schedule. They could even keep permanent cross-division opponents and make it work.



4 names AGAINST this:

Georgia
Florida
South Carolina
Kentucky

All have in-state rivals that are played annual. Therefore, 12 schools will have 2 slots to play anybody they want while these 4 will only get 1.

BTW, these 4 games DIDN'T get played (& don't think those 8 teams aren't mad about it).
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 5:39 pm
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

All have in-state rivals that are played annual. Therefore, 12 schools will have 2 slots to play anybody they want while these 4 will only get 1.

Oh no, there would be schedule requirements out of conference. Whether that be no FCS games or at least one Power 5 opponent... something.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8101 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:42 pm to
Because Pods Kick arse!
(with 2 perms on top - otherwise they suck)

Play your Pod: 3 Games
Play Perm: 2 Games
Rotation: 4 OR 5 Games

Play all Rivalry Games.
Play all Teams 2x every 4 years with a 10 game schedule.
Play all Teams 2x every 5 years with a 9 game schedule.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10531 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

10 game SEC Schedule.


I'm a fan of good OOC games. So much fun to see other teams and schools.

I prefer 9 conference games and two OOC P5/4 games with one patsy. Prefer the patsy to be an in-state school.

Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14925 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 5:52 pm to
quote:

In exchange for a bigger contract, ESPN will require a more unique inventory of games to show. If you put Texas and Oklahoma in a West division, depending on permanent opponents, it could take them 9 to 10 years before they play Georgia and Florida. ESPN will want these marquee match ups to happen much quicker and more often in order to provide compelling reason for more viewers.


Play 10 SEC games! that way you get to play others a lot more. 7 games for the division, 3 crossover. if you want tp push for 11 SEC games I am fine with that. 4 crossovers. That is best one of all.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:04 pm to
Georgia, Florida, SC, Kentucky
games 1-10: SEC conference game
game 11: in-state ACC opponent
game 12: free for scheduling whomever***


The Rest Of The SEC
games 1-10: SEC conference game
game 11: free for scheduling whomever***
game 12: free for scheduling whomever***
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 7:07 pm
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
7290 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

borotiger
Why some of you want 4 Pods over 2 Divisions?

quote:
10 game SEC Schedule.



I'm a fan of good OOC games. So much fun to see other teams and schools.

I prefer 9 conference games and two OOC P5/4 games with one patsy. Prefer the patsy to be an in-state school.


I believe that's easy for us!

in-state patsy school: Ga. Tech

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119121 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:16 pm to
The people who want pods want it slanted to them having the easy pod, like UK being paired with Missouri, UT and Vandy.

That would not happen in the pod environment.
Posted by jvilletiger25
jacksonville, fl
Member since Jan 2014
17004 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

We want Auburn


Why? Even Gus owned you guys. Imagine what a real Xs and Os coach will do to you.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 7/29/21 at 8:13 pm to
quote:

Georgia, Florida, SC, Kentucky
games 1-10: SEC conference game
game 11: in-state ACC opponent
game 12: free for scheduling whomever***


The Rest Of The SEC
games 1-10: SEC conference game
game 11: free for scheduling whomever***
game 12: free for scheduling whomever***

Or you just say every team has to play one Power 5 opponent, and it's a non issue.
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