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re: Why isn’t Stetson Bennett regarded as a top prospect?
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:55 pm to PassingThrough
Posted on 4/21/23 at 7:55 pm to PassingThrough
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Personally, any team that is drafting Bennett as a backup is doing it wrong. His best trait is the clutch factor and that can really only be exploited to its fullest extent in a starter role. Now he may very well not make it as a starter in the NFL, and it wouldn't be surprising, but I doubt he will end up sticking with being a career back up. For Bennett, it is do or do not, there is no trying to stand on the sideline with a headset.
He could be a sideline reporter for Amazon I guess.
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Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:37 pm to thekid
Stetson Bennett is as undervalued as Brice Young is overvalued. Young looks great because he does well when plays break down, as they often do with him. Bennett looks good, but not great, because not many plays break down.
I think the difference between Stetson and Brice is mostly stylistic. There's a good chance that neither QB has a successful pro career. I will be pulling for both to do well though.
I think the difference between Stetson and Brice is mostly stylistic. There's a good chance that neither QB has a successful pro career. I will be pulling for both to do well though.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:43 pm to Smokeyone
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Multiple accounts of him expecting free meals, free drinks and free items were available in Athens.
You mean the one that was proven false? Wow. You have really had it in for him since he was invited to New York while your QB was not.
Hooker is the better prospect. they invited him because he was on the cusp of winning his second title and your QB was injured. You really need to let it go and not worry so much what people on this board thinks. It has you tied up in knots and you make horrible takes as a result.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:51 pm to Smokeyone
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A one trick pony? What’s the one trick?
Using the full 53 yards and only reading half of the defense. Then building the QB decision-making off of one single read.
That is a gimmick offense which won't be used in the NFL.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 8:59 pm to thekid
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Why isn’t Stetson Bennett regarded as a top prospect?
Am I really supposed to give a frick about this? 
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:37 pm to meansonny
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Using the full 53 yards and only reading half of the defense. Then building the QB decision-making off of one single read.
That’s 3 tricks actually. And NFL teams don’t look for mismatches? They don’t spread the field? Because I’m pretty sure they do. And it’s 3 different reads when hooker was running it, and most of the time it was 3 plays out of 1 formation with either a handoff, a keep or a hot WR and they were scripted. That’s why they didn’t need to huddle and could just look at the sideline. The 3 signal guys rotated who was giving live signals and could call 4 play scripts at a time. The check with me stuff could be called in if they saw something upstairs to exploit.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:46 pm to Smokeyone
1 trick.
OC sets the field for a 1 read play.
And no... the hash marks are too narrow in the NFL to design an offense around this.
That's why the Heupel QBs and WRs are unprepared for the league.
The play calls are 10 times longer.
The presnap reads are more difficult.
The presnap motions are more difficult.
And the QB is often asked to get to a 3rd or 4th read quickly instead of 1 read/throw.
OC sets the field for a 1 read play.
And no... the hash marks are too narrow in the NFL to design an offense around this.
That's why the Heupel QBs and WRs are unprepared for the league.
The play calls are 10 times longer.
The presnap reads are more difficult.
The presnap motions are more difficult.
And the QB is often asked to get to a 3rd or 4th read quickly instead of 1 read/throw.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 9:47 pm to Smokeyone
This is all well known in football.
Why are you acting like it is something different?
Why are you acting like it is something different?
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:25 pm to Mulkey Man
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He has better measurables than most think, but he is old. He's also a total douchebag which has apparently dropped his draft stock.
Boom M___________!
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:30 pm to Smokeyone
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That’s 3 tricks actually. And NFL teams don’t look for mismatches? They don’t spread the field? Because I’m pretty sure they do. And it’s 3 different reads when hooker was running it, and most of the time it was 3 plays out of 1 formation with either a handoff, a keep or a hot WR and they were scripted. That’s why they didn’t need to huddle and could just look at the sideline. The 3 signal guys rotated who was giving live signals and could call 4 play scripts at a time. The check with me stuff could be called in if they saw something upstairs to exploit.
Almost every NFL film guy says your offense causes a problem in evaluating.
Here's one. Played QB in the NFL for a decade and he likes Hendon:
JT O'Sullivan
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:34 pm to TrussvilleTide
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Maybe not a little over a year ago. Dude has a big head. Was abundantly clear in his arrest video that he thinks he is hot shite.
Hard to go from walk on rejected two times by your own coaches and become a two time national champ, Heisman finalist, four time CFP MVP and SECCG MVP without it.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 10:40 pm to bigtiger440
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I think measurables are too over rated.
How many little guys have to win before people start believing that winners are winners regardless of their size.
Measurables are overrated but I assure you these guys are into winning superbowls and would take literally anyone that's not held by a court in jail to do so. They think he's a liability and his game isn't going to translate that well. Baker Mayfield and Johnny manziel looked like kid wonder as well. It's just not as easy in the NFL and their job is to measure risk. They could be wrong, the guys that passed on Johnny manziel don't get credit for being right. The guys that passed on hurts and Mahomes absolutely get blamed for being wrong.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:14 pm to meansonny
The NFL is a mismatch driven league. The idea that teams don’t or can’t scheme for mismatches is absurd. The driving for behind TEs in the NFL is to exploit LB mismatches.
And you are a decade too late if you believe spread style offenses can’t function in the NFL. Shotgun with 4 wide and multiple verticals has been an NFL staple for a generation. Hell Tom Brady made a career out of it.
Huepel was a head coach a frigging UCF before Tennessee, he’s just now this is the 1st time he has had the resources and support to get his guys on the field.
Sam Bradford was a multi year starter. 12 WRs in the draft between OU, UCF, and Tennessee.
Todd Monken with double the years in college produced 0 eastern Michigan WRs as WR coach. 0 WRs as LaTechs WR coach, 1 WR at Okie St R Woods (1st round bust 7 career receptions yikes) at LSU he got S Green drafted (3 receptions) and B Brazel drafted (never saw a snap). Back at Okie St he had 1st rounder J Blackmon (another 1st round bust) and at UGA he had G Pickens a 1st round talent Monken helped get drafted in the second round costing him millions, TBD if he makes it.
You want to talk about an overhyped journeyman position coach, look no further than Todd Monken. No wonder he can’t keep a job more than 3 years. In 30 years of coaching WRs his highlight is Pickens.
And you are a decade too late if you believe spread style offenses can’t function in the NFL. Shotgun with 4 wide and multiple verticals has been an NFL staple for a generation. Hell Tom Brady made a career out of it.
Huepel was a head coach a frigging UCF before Tennessee, he’s just now this is the 1st time he has had the resources and support to get his guys on the field.
Sam Bradford was a multi year starter. 12 WRs in the draft between OU, UCF, and Tennessee.
Todd Monken with double the years in college produced 0 eastern Michigan WRs as WR coach. 0 WRs as LaTechs WR coach, 1 WR at Okie St R Woods (1st round bust 7 career receptions yikes) at LSU he got S Green drafted (3 receptions) and B Brazel drafted (never saw a snap). Back at Okie St he had 1st rounder J Blackmon (another 1st round bust) and at UGA he had G Pickens a 1st round talent Monken helped get drafted in the second round costing him millions, TBD if he makes it.
You want to talk about an overhyped journeyman position coach, look no further than Todd Monken. No wonder he can’t keep a job more than 3 years. In 30 years of coaching WRs his highlight is Pickens.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:24 pm to Smokeyone
You posted all of that and ignored half field reads, 1 read throws, and 1 or 2 word play calls.
Great work.
Great work.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:28 pm to Smokeyone
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You want to talk about an overhyped journeyman position coach, look no further than Todd Monken
Tell me about it.
2 national championships.
2021 X receiver Pickens had 5 catches for 105 yards.
2022 X receiver AD Mitchell had 9 catches for 134 yards.
What kind of an OC can win 2 national championships with that type of performance from the X Position.
I mean... we know what happens to Bama and Ohio State when they have poor production at the X position.
Posted on 4/21/23 at 11:49 pm to Smokeyone
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The NFL is a mismatch driven league. The idea that teams don’t or can’t scheme for mismatches is absurd. The driving for behind TEs in the NFL is to exploit LB mismatches.
And you are a decade too late if you believe spread style offenses can’t function in the NFL. Shotgun with 4 wide and multiple verticals has been an NFL staple for a generation. Hell Tom Brady made a career out of it.
Huepel was a head coach a frigging UCF before Tennessee, he’s just now this is the 1st time he has had the resources and support to get his guys on the field.
Sam Bradford was a multi year starter. 12 WRs in the draft between OU, UCF, and Tennessee.
Todd Monken with double the years in college produced 0 eastern Michigan WRs as WR coach. 0 WRs as LaTechs WR coach, 1 WR at Okie St R Woods (1st round bust 7 career receptions yikes) at LSU he got S Green drafted (3 receptions) and B Brazel drafted (never saw a snap). Back at Okie St he had 1st rounder J Blackmon (another 1st round bust) and at UGA he had G Pickens a 1st round talent Monken helped get drafted in the second round costing him millions, TBD if he makes it.
You want to talk about an overhyped journeyman position coach, look no further than Todd Monken. No wonder he can’t keep a job more than 3 years. In 30 years of coaching WRs his highlight is Pickens.
Just things I've learned preparing for the draft:
The Briles guys and Heupel have a bad track record with WRs drafted in rounds 1-3. Josh Gordon is the only one who has done anything of real relevance in the league and he was taken in the supplemental draft but would almost certainly have gone in the first three rounds in the real draft. In other words, the NFL probably wishes they hadn't drafted them.
Almost half of Hyatt's TDs were schemed open by the offense. An offense you can't use in the NFL, or at least hasn't gone well when variants of it have been tried so far.
NFL teams try to scheme matchups where their guy can beat the guy across from them through nuanced route running.
UT is trying to confuse guys in coverage. That works well until you go up against a team that can matchup man to man. Most of the NFL DBs can run with Hyatt.
Hooker is looking to one side of the field much of the time and making one or two reads and then running. He's not scrambling and looking downfield to make a throw. If he's getting outside the pocket, 99 percent of the time you can forget about the WRs.
It has been noted by many on film review how WRs loaf on one side of the field in your offense because they know they are not getting the ball. As JT said "walking down the field". You don't see that in the NFL.
This post was edited on 4/21/23 at 11:50 pm
Posted on 4/22/23 at 12:26 am to thekid
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Why isn’t Stetson Bennett regarded
Because he is mentally handicapped!!
Posted on 4/22/23 at 6:59 am to meansonny
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What kind of an OC can win 2 national championships
Because the OC isn’t part of the defensive front 7. UGA won games because of depth of its defensive front 7 and a fortunate scheduling.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 7:12 am to Smokeyone
That's funny.
We outscored Bama in the NCG 13-6 in the 4th quarter to win a national championship.
We outscored Ohio in the Peach Bowl 18-0 in the 4th quarter to advance to the 2022 NCG.
We outscored Tennessee 24-6 in the first half before the rains factored in the game.
We outscored LSU in the first half 35-10.
We outscored Oregon 28-3 in the first half.
We outscored TCU 38-7 in the first half.
It is almost as if we outscored teams in the biggest games of the season. But Monken is a bum. And his offense is bupkus without a true X receiver.
We outscored Bama in the NCG 13-6 in the 4th quarter to win a national championship.
We outscored Ohio in the Peach Bowl 18-0 in the 4th quarter to advance to the 2022 NCG.
We outscored Tennessee 24-6 in the first half before the rains factored in the game.
We outscored LSU in the first half 35-10.
We outscored Oregon 28-3 in the first half.
We outscored TCU 38-7 in the first half.
It is almost as if we outscored teams in the biggest games of the season. But Monken is a bum. And his offense is bupkus without a true X receiver.
Posted on 4/22/23 at 7:13 am to thekid
Because he’s already nearing retirement age. Probably thinks he peaked in college and getting up there for NFL age
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