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re: Why is Saban known as such a great db coach?

Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:18 pm to
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:18 pm to
I agree, got to be the toughest of all positions to teach. But having a front 7 that rushes a QB and forces him to make quick (bad) decisions every time he drops back might keep DB's from standing out with great plays and stats, that was my only point.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:19 pm to
Smart may end up at Tennessee.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:22 pm to
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Smart may end up at Tennessee.


That would suck. Hell, half their staff is from Bama.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:23 pm to
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Kirby Smart coaches LBs. He's gonna be the next coach at UGA, I'd bet. As soon as the Dawgs wake-up to the fact that the "kindler, gentler" approach of Mark Richt don't win championships.


You're new here. I'll cut you some slack this time.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:26 pm to
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You're new here. I'll cut you some slack this time


Thank you. But deep down inside, don't you agree?
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:30 pm to
Not even a little. Smart is a great defensive coach but I see McGarity going and getting a proven head coach at a smaller school rather than going the coordinator route.

And I'm not a huge fan of hiring a guy just because he coached under someone else. It was all the rave to hire all of Belichek's assistants and coordinators and all have pretty much been failures. Same with Saban disciples. And the heavy hitters within the AD and the big money guys aren't going to want Smart after he played us a few years back.
Posted by five_fivesix
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:44 pm to
Good points. Dooley, Muschamp, Fisher haven't really set the world on fire. Plus Weiss and Crennel were miserable failures as head coaches. Smart moving into a small school position would probably be best for him and for his ultimate gig, if he turns out to be talented as the HMFWIC.

But what about Richt? Is this his last year, if the season goes south?
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15343 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 10:47 pm to
It was a lateral move and while the fans may have taken it personal, a smart AD knows it was just business.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:00 pm to
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But what about Richt? Is this his last year, if the season goes south?


I would like to say that if he blows this year then it would be but I just don't know. I'd hope so considering it would be a major choke job with the talent and schedule we have. 10 wins should be no problem and 11 should be expected.

I have always been a huge Charlie Strong fan and he would be on the top of my list.
Posted by five_fivesix
Y’all
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:05 pm to
I like Charlie Strong. I'd hate it if you guys went that way. Charlie Wiess would be ok though.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:06 pm to
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His DBs can't backpedal worth shite.


Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:07 pm to
Having been of smaller stature his entire life, Saban became quite adept at finding innovative solutions for the condition.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:08 pm to
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fans


And big money donors.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26175 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:09 pm to
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I like Charlie Strong. I'd hate it if you guys went that way.


I think he could really succeed here. He's done a great job at Louisville imo.

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Charlie Wiess would be ok though.


Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9783 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:14 pm to
Very good safety coach. He's as good as it gets imo
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75882 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:22 pm to
The 2009 team produced one 1st round CB (Kareem Jackson) and one 2nd round CB (Javier Arenas). The 2011 team produced one 1st round CB (Dre Kirkpatrick) and one 1st round Safety (Mark Barron, who was also a starter on the 2009 team).

Those NFL Execs had to see something they liked, right?
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:32 pm to
He's a very solid DB coach, his DBs tend to look better due to his other trait that I'd say is far better. He's one of the best game planners in the business. It is easy to make a defense look good when they are well prepared for the offense they will face.
Posted by dreaux
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 8/20/12 at 11:53 pm to
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He's a very solid DB coach, his DBs tend to look better due to his other trait that I'd say is far better. He's one of the best game planners in the business. It is easy to make a defense look good when they are well prepared for the offense they will face.


It doesn't hurt that they all are 260 and run a 4.5
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18639 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 1:33 am to
As has been mentioned, Saban was a defensive back in college. He also works specifically with the defensive backs during practices. The style of defense Saban runs leaves the corners on an island constantly. The DBs are very physical and often are challenged in 1 on 1 situations. I think Nick Sabans defensive backs have been much better at Alabama than they were when Saban was at LSU. Marquis Johnson may be the best example of a what a good DB coach Saban is. I know that names means jack shite to other SEC fans, but Bama fans know what I am talking about.
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22423 posts
Posted on 8/21/12 at 1:48 am to
Dude really? I guess you forgot the reporter when Nick was at LSU that told Nick he knew absolutely nothing about defense and bet Nick he could not teach him anything in 15 minutes. After 15 minutes, the reporter knew ins and outs of basic coverages. That's what makes him great, his ability to break shite down so even dumb asses get it.
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