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re: Why is it assumed that Auburn is bad and that it's issues cannot be fixed?

Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
12778 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:20 pm to
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3 in first game, 2 in last game.. hopefully he improves to 1 in this game


You think JJ will improve his Int stats vs. DBU?? Good luck my friend...please tell JJ to watch out for someone name Kevin Toliver
Posted by Wanderin Reb
Gallifrey
Member since Jun 2013
10738 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:20 pm to
Did JJ get lasik?

No?

Well the. There's your factual argument as to why they won't improve.
Posted by Wild Thang
YAW YAW Fooball Nation
Member since Jun 2009
44181 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:26 pm to
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Old Sarge


This Auburn vs LSU game is very important to you.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108404 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:29 pm to
You used to be more sensible and smarter than this. What happened?
Posted by Frau Farbissina
Member since Sep 2015
39 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:31 pm to
How often does a team that loses to an FCS team/goes down to the wire with an FCS team come back to have a successful season?

There's your factual argument. See how easy that was?
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:31 pm to
The issue isn't the defense. It's the offense.

People will point to the yards we gave up to JSU. That's fine, but at the end of the day, scoring defense is what matters. Sure JSU scored 20, but if AU had hung 40, 50 or 60 on them, no one would give a rat's arse about the yards.

JJ's stats are bad and the interceptions he's thrown were bad. Add that to the fact he hasn't been a run threat and people are worried, myself included.

I did read something (and I hope it's true) that stated the coaches attributed JJ's performance in the first game to nerves and that's why it was more of the same in the JSU game. But now that they see there is another issue, they will scheme around it. And you also have optimistic people who believe based on Gus' play calling historically and through the first two games he is doing the minimum to win.

We'll see this weekend. If the team can't get excited and play with some energy for this game then it's going to be a long season.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 3:33 pm
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9550 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:36 pm to
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But now that they see there is another issue, they will scheme around it.


I think gus will implement a passing strategy similar to what Les wants. Shorter than five yards or longer than 15 and outside the hashes. Gus will come up with some shorts routs out of the backfield and will throw a ton of eye candy presnap to mix with zone read and option stuff. Most people thin JJ isn't a great runner but Malzahn will scheme for him. I don't think this game is anything but a ground and pound game.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
25130 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:40 pm to
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not sure this is true, i know AU is one of three teams that have finished in the top ten in recruiting for the last three years, the other two being Bama and FSU.


Ummm and there's another
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:46 pm to
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I think gus will implement a passing strategy similar to what Les wants. Shorter than five yards or longer than 15 and outside the hashes. Gus will come up with some shorts routs out of the backfield and will throw a ton of eye candy presnap to mix with zone read and option stuff. Most people thin JJ isn't a great runner but Malzahn will scheme for him. I don't think this game is anything but a ground and pound game.


It will be interesting to see if we get the run game established early. In the JSU game it took 3 quarters to get going. Some of that was because Avery Young on the o line was out and all the players shifted positions for the JSU game.

I think you're right. I think this will be a ground and pound game.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9550 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:46 pm to
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Avery Young


Is he back?
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:48 pm to
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Is he back?


He's supposed to be.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:48 pm to
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No one has produced a single factual argument that supports Auburn not being improved.


I haven't read a single factual argument on this board in a very long time. this board is not high on facts. Auburn is assumed bad because they have struggled so far this year. it means nothing. Auburn is a damn good football team and I guarantee that team will play a damn good game Saturday.
Posted by higgs_boson
State College, PA
Member since Sep 2014
23534 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:49 pm to
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quote:
Avery Young


Is he back?


I believe so.
LINK

quote:

Right tackle Avery Young is expected to return to the field after missing the Tigers' 27-20 victory against Jacksonville State due to an unspecified injury. Offensive coordinator Rhett Lashlee said the junior has "practiced well" this week as Auburn prepares for a 2:30 p.m. CT kickoff Saturday at No. 13 LSU.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51695 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:50 pm to
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not sure this is true, i know AU is one of three teams that have finished in the top ten in recruiting for the last three years, the other two being Bama and FSU.


Wrong

AU

2013 - 8th
2014 - 6th
2015 - 10th


LSU

2013 - 6th
2014 - 2nd
2015 - 5th
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51695 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:50 pm to
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That's just not a true statement at all.


See my post above, please.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11160 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:51 pm to
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See Ole Miss scoring 1 billion points versus two cupcake teams. Also see aTm destroying Ball State in the first half last week.


I'm sorry, but LSU has no room to talk on this front. Regardless, AU playing lesser teams close is nothing new, even in the great years.

quote:

The #6 team in the nation should never have a game against an FCS opponent go to OT.



I never stated I thought AU was the #6 team, and it's evident they aren't. Precisely why preseason rankings are a joke.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 3:54 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51695 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:52 pm to
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Ummm and there's another


There are actually two others, as I have shown above. I'm honestly not sure where he got those numbers from.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:52 pm to
Auburn fans claim the biggest improvements are made between games 1 and 2.

Based on that claim, they're gonna suck.
This post was edited on 9/17/15 at 3:53 pm
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:54 pm to
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I'm sorry, but LSU has no room to talk on this front.


You said "talent rich teams struggle against inferior opponents"... we played Miss State. MSU =/= JSU.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
11160 posts
Posted on 9/17/15 at 3:57 pm to
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You said "talent rich teams struggle against inferior opponents"... we played Miss State. MSU =/= JSU.



Sorry I didn't specify.. "Historically" LSU has a tendency to play down to their opponent, just like AU.
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