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re: Why Is Florida so Underrated?
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:53 am to Florida225
Posted on 9/4/13 at 9:53 am to Florida225
27% better apparently
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Posted on 9/4/13 at 10:35 am to GatorsGators
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Why Is Florida so Underrated?
You were preseason top ten and a consensus NC contender. How highly do you think you should have been rated?
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:17 am to GatorsGators
Mett is way > than Driskel.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:20 am to Mrtommorrow1987
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Mett is way > than Driskel.
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Think.
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Point.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:22 am to Damn Good Dawg
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WHy do they need Foley's permission? I thought the home team could wear what they wanted as long as they told the away team in time and the away team just had to deal.
Because Miami's native home jersey is orange jersey, white pants.
The home team needs permission from the away team's AD to wear a different jersey.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:40 am to boXerrumble
quote:Because you're playing LSU-style football:
Why Is Florida so Underrated?
You have a defense that can allow you to win any game, as long as you can score 10 pts; and an offense that seems to test that, almost every game.
That will lead you to being picked against every time you play a flashy team, despite the fact you still should win. Unfortunately for you, you did lose to the flashy team in last year's bowl with Louisville (just like LSU with Clemson), so you're gonna hear it more now.
What will make it seem even worse: LSU now looks like it has an offense, so Florida will be the main/only poster boy for defense-only teams.
Solution: you need a solid passing game in a couple of big games. Apparently, having a running game doesn't get you a break.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:46 am to Scoob
To be fair. Your offense has always looked good in OOC guys. Vtech, Oregon, WVU, etc. Now I saw improvement in Mett but it has to happen in conference first after so many years of Miles offense it is wait and see. Which is how it will be with Muschamp until we prove ourself offensively. Not a troll or slander, but it is just how I feel.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 11:54 am to GatorsGators
I never feel like UF is underrated...even when the rest of the SECr does
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:04 pm to CockyInNola24
Tossing out I don't think our poll rankings are unjust. I felt anywhere between 8-14 could be justified for our team. It's more of public perception of our team. Miami fans truly believe they will beat down Florida. They actually believe this. It's shocking tbh. A football team who hasn't beaten a top ten team in I believe eight years, who hasn't been ranked in years, who hasn't beaten a ranked team in 3 years. Will destroy the number 10 team in the nation because we aren't good? I know they are the most delusional fan base in the nation, but even homer's usually accept they are out matched but find an excuse to say they win.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:07 pm to 08Gatorbait
quote:Good point, but it does reinforce my answer-
To be fair. Your offense has always looked good in OOC guys. Vtech, Oregon, WVU, etc. Now I saw improvement in Mett but it has to happen in conference first after so many years of Miles offense it is wait and see. Which is how it will be with Muschamp until we prove ourself offensively. Not a troll or slander, but it is just how I feel.
LSU looked good against Oregon, VT, WVU on offense= LSU got tons of love in the media, and climbed in the polls. Mettenberger threw the ball downfield a lot against TCU, and reporters are scrambling to say "oh shite, don't forget the Tigers".
Smother Miami 13-0 and allow under 200 yds offense, and you might not find 1 national article about your team. Win 30-24 with a solid passing attack, and you may find "Gators Rising" headlining ESPN and SI. Just the way it works.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:12 pm to Scoob
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Good point, but it does reinforce my answer-
LSU looked good against Oregon, VT, WVU on offense= LSU got tons of love in the media, and climbed in the polls. Mettenberger threw the ball downfield a lot against TCU, and reporters are scrambling to say "oh shite, don't forget the Tigers".
Smother Miami 13-0 and allow under 200 yds offense, and you might not find 1 national article about your team. Win 30-24 with a solid passing attack, and you may find "Gators Rising" headlining ESPN and SI. Just the way it works.
Yea I understand. Remember in 07 we couldn't play defense at all but we were still media darlings. It's pathetic actually. UF doesn't win either title without outstanding defense. In 06 our offense was pretty average. You always hear defense wins titles, the SEC wins because of defense, etc...yet the media has no respect for a team centered around winning through defense.
Oregon...oh they are so pretty though!!!
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:15 pm to Scoob
Exactly, I for one liked what I saw from LSU but it certainly wasn't a great performance as some say.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:18 pm to 08Gatorbait
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Your offense has always looked good in OOC guys. Vtech, Oregon, WVU
Against Oregon, we only got about 250 yards of offense and our passing looked bad. Against WVU, we looked good, but who doesn't? Still, we did have a pretty good offense that year, including SEC games (other than Alabama). Against VT we looked great, but then we scored 27 or more points in every game that year, including SEC, and won the national title, so we did have a good offense.
When we haven't had a good offense, we've usually shown that in non-conference games, too. Last year, we were lackluster against North Texas and Towson, didn't look all that flashy even against Washington, and of course sucked balls against Clemson. In '10, we didn't exactly light it up against WVU or McNeese, and even against UNC we had some help from the D to get 30 points. In '09, we were shaky offensively against all our OOC opponents.
I don't recall a time when LSU really had a great game offensively against a quality OOC opponent and didn't go on to have a good offense.
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 12:19 pm
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:21 pm to Nuts4LSU
Sorry if my memory is foggy, but what about Arizona 2006? I know that was a total arse kicking (esp. LSU's D), but how was the offense?
I know Arizona (at the time) wouldn't be "quality" but they were a P10 school.
I know Arizona (at the time) wouldn't be "quality" but they were a P10 school.
This post was edited on 9/4/13 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:25 pm to SpartyGator
In 2006, the LSU team rocked all around with the exception of a mind boggling 7-3 loss @ Auburn and a mistake filled 23-10 game at UF. The only other sketchy performance was against Ole Miss which was a 23-20 OT win.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:28 pm to Jrv2damac
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In 2006, the LSU team rocked all around with the exception of a mind boggling 7-3 loss @ Auburn and a mistake filled 23-10 game at UF. The only other sketchy performance was against Ole Miss which was a 23-20 OT win.
Yeah, that 06 offense was really talented, but I was curious about that specific game (in terms of good offense vs decent OOC team).
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:33 pm to GatorsGators
quote:It's nice to think that way, but as LSU fans, we can assure you that reality won't bear that out. The problem is, when you have an offense that can't sustain drives, the defense plays a disproportionate number of snaps, and gets worn down as the game goes on. I don't care how good your defensive guys are supposed to be; they can't survive that. That's exactly what happened to us when we played Florida last year.
Our offense will be one of the more effective offenses in the SEC in what we're trying to do.
Time and again it's been proven that even the best defenses in the conference need an offense that can give them rest during the game. That means having a balanced offensive attack, which Florida is yet to prove that it has.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:42 pm to GatorsGators
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I get that we shite the bed in the Sugar Bowl. I get that our offense is far from the sexy, prolific offense people are accustomed to from the Spurrier and Meyer days.
But we won eleven games last season (seven conference games) against undoubtedly one of the most difficult schedules in the nation. Our defense is littered with studs and future first round picks. Our offense isn't sexy, but that's mostly by design.
I find the SECr's lack of faith in UF disturbing.
I pretty much agree with all you said, and I still think Florida is a legitimate contender.
Still, some points about last year as related to this year...
LSU game: Mett throws a bad pick early and LSU puts him in a strait jacket until we fall behind in the 4th quarter, then he nails a long bomb to Beckham, who fumbles after he catches it. UF does nothing offensively until the 4th quarter when our defense wears down, and wins ugly 14-6. This year, I doubt you'll see LSU lose confidence in Mett so easily, nor is he likely to play as badly. You are unlikely to win this game with only 14 points again this year. Your offense will have to be better. Better than last year against us and better than last week against Toledo.
USC game: The Cocks basically self-destructed in every way possible in the first half and the game was over before it ever got started. You know you can't count on that again this year with Spurrier, and he has a great defense, too. Your offense will have to do more to win this tough road game.
Georgia game: Your defense pretty much handled Georgia last year, but you lost anyway because your offense screwed up so much. Georgia's D looked bad against Clemson, but they did at times last year, too. In order for you to take advantage, your offense will have to be better.
Missouri game: Last year, they had a ton of injuries and you rode the defense to a lackluster 14-7 win. This year, they seem healthier and sharper, so you probably will need more points this time.
Florida State: I know it's only one game and Pitt may suck balls for all we know, but that freshman QB looks awfully good. You may not be able to rely on controlling the game defensively, wearing them down and then running all over them. They have athletes all over the field, too. Your offense will need to be better and more balanced.
The theme is pretty clear. Although you got by just fine last year with nothing but a great defense, you will have a hard time duplicating that with the same formula this year. Your offense will have to get better. It may well do so, but until they show it, it's understandable for people to doubt it.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:50 pm to boXerrumble
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Because Miami's native home jersey is orange jersey, white pants.
The home team needs permission from the away team's AD to wear a different jersey.
Seriously? That's really a rule? I really thought it was the home team's choice and the away team was the one that had to ask if they wanted to wear anything other than white. The home team I always thought just had to let the visiting team know what they were going with.
Posted on 9/4/13 at 12:54 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Yeah, i have to admit I thought it was home team's choice, too 
That said, Florida can win with blue in these conditions, so it really is a non-issue
That said, Florida can win with blue in these conditions, so it really is a non-issue
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