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re: Why have top SEC teams struggled in DKR Stadium lately?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:35 pm to AwgustaDawg
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:35 pm to AwgustaDawg
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If they play 22 minutes like they did against Alabama the result is the same or worse than that game.
Be honest though. At the beginning of the season, you would have had an extremely long list of teams that would beat UGA if UGA was -3 in the turnover margin like they were against Bama.
But UGA turning over the ball 4 times is NOT something I expect to happen again this season. If it does... we'll lose that game too. But the reality is that is an outlier.
This year UGA has 4 games with 0 offensive turnovers. One with 2 (MSU) and one with 4 (Bama).
I don't expect 4 to happen again. 1-2 is where the expected value should be, probably leaning more toward 1.
And I think you're nuts that the first 22 minutes of the Alabama game is closer to what they have been in most games this season. That was literally the worst UGA has opened a game in the last 25 years.
The reality is the "normal" first half for UGA is a lack of offensive production WITHOUT turnovers and a strong defensive performance.
UGA in the first half against major conference teams:
6-0 vs Clemson
3-6 vs UK
14-3 vs AU
27-10 vs MSU
and 7-30 vs Bama.
UGA's offense has started out slow in most games this year. But other than Bama they've given up 1 first half TD. It is "Munson Derangement Syndrome" to say that the Bama result is the norm for UGA.
As I said before, if UGA plays the game like the Clemson game (including the slow first half on offense and the strong defensive effort the whole game), UGA can beat Texas. If UGA plays like the second half of the Clemson game for a full game, they could blow Texas out.
But I don't expect that either. But a full defensive game and a half of offense may be enough.
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Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:38 pm to DawginSC
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a full defensive game and a half of offense may be enough.
Texas is not Clemson or Alabama. Texas is a complete team. If UGA does not play a 4 quarter game, they will not win.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:40 pm to TexasOnTop
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If UGA does not play a 4 quarter game, they will not win.
If OU had played a 3 quarter game, they would have won?
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:45 pm to MtVernon
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If OU had played a 3 quarter game, they would have won?
Nope. Even if UGA plays a 4 quarter game they still have the deck stacked against them. Texas has mismatches all over the offense. Helm will be an X factor without their best coverage LB playing. Georgia's secondary does not have the speed to keep up with this WR unit. Georgia's DL has not lived up to expectation and our OL is a top 3 unit in CFB.
Side note, but Texas has moved to -5 on BetMGM
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:49 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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not something from like the first quarter bro
On the contrary friend, under Les Miles, I definitely seen people get upset about something in the first and second quarter and make long threads about it.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:49 pm to TexasOnTop
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Texas is not Clemson or Alabama. Texas is a complete team. If UGA does not play a 4 quarter game, they will not win.
Eh...are they?
They opened slow against OU (though they woke up with 4 minutes to go in the second quarter to get to a big halftime lead).
They opened a slow against MSU (14-6 at the half compared to 27-10 for UGA at the half against MSU)
The second half against Michigan wasn't strong... but they had a lead so we can give them the benefit of the doubt that they were running out the clock.
The main difference is that UGA had a defensive/turnover melt down in the first half against Bama while Texas has been very good defensively.
If UGA plays their Clemson game on both sides and Texas plays their MSU game on both sides, I think UGA wins.
If UGA goes -3 in turnover margin again (like UGA did against Bama and like Michigan did against Texas) then yes, we'll be beat pretty badly.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:58 pm to DawginSC
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They opened slow against OU (though they woke up with 4 minutes to go in the second quarter to get to a big halftime
Quinn's first game in a month, and he played his worst game in 2 years (via PFF), I would not expect that again.
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They opened a slow against MSU (14-6 at the half compared to 27-10 for UGA at the half against MSU)
Dropped TD, Blues fumble and penalties on explosive3 plays kept that from being 28-6 going into half. But yes Texas played undisciplined in the first half.
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Eh...are they?
Yes when compared to Alabama and Clemson. Clemson is a defensive loaded team, sure they've ran it up on poor competition since the UGA game, but they're not a "complete" team like Texas. Alabama does not have a defense, that's pretty self explanatory when comparing them to Texas.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:15 pm to LSUTigresFan
you’re not very good at this
bitching about the coach and saying we lost because of a drop in the early part of the game are totally different things.
bitching about the coach and saying we lost because of a drop in the early part of the game are totally different things.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:29 pm to AwgustaDawg
quote:You guys have far too much talent on the team to not make the playoffs. In other words even with 3 losses (I think no more than 2 in reality) ya'll still get in before any other 3 loss team.
There is a pretty good chance that UGA still makes the playoff with a loss to Texas which will mean UGA plays in what amounts to at least one meaningful bowl game. There is also a pretty good shot that UGA loses 3-4 games this season and winds up in some meaningless bowl game. I will bet a coca cola that if the latter happens a bunch of players on THIS UGA team opt out of any bowl game that is not a play off game. This UGA team is comprised of players waiting for someone else to make a play, there is very little emotion on the field....its just different for UGA this year.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:32 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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you’re not very good at this
bitching about the coach and saying we lost because of a drop in the early part of the game are totally different things.
You live in one delusional world. Bitching about Les Miles going for it on fourth and goal and not scoring instead of kicking a field goal is literally the same thing we been talking about. Who do you think people mostly blame when a team goes for it and leaves points on the board? LSU fans were doing that with LSU against FSU in 2022 too. But go figure you would argue this.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:42 pm to TexasOnTop
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Quinn's first game in a month, and he played his worst game in 2 years (via PFF), I would not expect that again.
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Dropped TD, Blues fumble and penalties on explosive3 plays kept that from being 28-6 going into half. But yes Texas played undisciplined in the first half.
No offense but every example can be explained with excuses. Including all of UGA's poor starts. The slow starts still happened though.
UGA started slow against Clemson because they leaned into the running game without 2 of their top 3 RB's and it didn't work. They went to pass first in the second half.
Actually... UGA leaning into the run game early can be blamed for pretty much every slow start they've had. Their offense has only woken up when they went to pass first (which they never did against UK for some reason).
But those things still happened. UGA will probably try to set up the run again against Texas, it probably won't work and UGA will not do much on offense early. And texas will probably have regular turnovers because they've had them in every game except the Michigan game this year while UGA has only turned the ball over in 2 games this season (Bama and MSU).
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Clemson is a defensive loaded team, sure they've ran it up on poor competition since the UGA game, but they're not a "complete" team like Texas
Really?
Clemson has very similar offensive stats to Texas this year... and to date I'm not really sure they've played an easier schedule.
Texas against P4 teams had 389 yards vs Michigan, 522 vs MSU and 406 vs OU. The rest of their yards came against cupcakes.
Clemson had 566 vs Wake, 500 vs FSU, 405 vs Stanford, 523 vs NCSU and.... 188 vs UGA. They had 1 cupcake game (App State).
People (like you) assumed Clemson's offense was bad because UGA stonewalled them. But their offense was on par with teams like Ole Miss and Tennessee in the SEC facing the same opponents.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 2:43 pm to 49 to nada
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You guys have far too much talent on the team to not make the playoffs. In other words even with 3 losses (I think no more than 2 in reality) ya'll still get in before any other 3 loss team.
I don't think any 3-loss team (unless the 3rd loss comes in a championship game) will make the playoff.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:02 pm to MizzouTrue
Posted on 10/16/24 at 3:21 pm to MizzouTrue
Texas has always had the good recruits, big stadium, expensive coach, and huge fanbase. They are always ranked to begin a season and can play tough for a big game. Especially at home when bragging rights are on the line. but they lose games because they were prima donna sissy boys and couldn't bring that intensity every week like you have to do in the SEC. LSU struggled a few times in 2019, but they strung it together for 15 straight games against an amazing schedule and still won them all. Almost beating the champs 1 time doesn't mean you were second best team of the year.
Sark seems to have changed the culture of the program. We will see if they are actually good this weekend.
Sark seems to have changed the culture of the program. We will see if they are actually good this weekend.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:08 pm to swinetime
quote:Now talk about the most recent time Arkansas played there…
2003 Arkansas blew the doors off that dump of a stadium
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:10 pm to theliontamer
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but they lose games because they were prima donna sissy boys and couldn't bring that intensity every week like you have to do in the SEC
quote:Literally nobody in here is saying this other than one LSU fan on the first page
Almost beating the champs 1 time doesn't mean you were second best team of the year.
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