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re: why hasn't the media or NCAA done more snooping at Alabama?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:05 pm to RT1941
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:05 pm to RT1941
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FYI ~ All Bama and UF players were drug tested 2 weeks ago, and all Bama and Wash players will be drug tested again next week.
Just wait for it, it'll come. The whole "results for Bama players will be sealed and reviewed ONLY by Emmert".
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Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:06 pm to BillBrosky
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As I'm sure the liberals think that even though the wiki stuff was the truth, it shouldn't have been leaked, therefore they really won because someone cheated.
That relates to you not me Holmes. Remember when Tennessee supposedly leaked info leading to sanctions on y'all?
I always see bama fans blaming sanctions for down periods. Were y'all ever sanctioned for false accusations?
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:06 pm to RT1941
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You know the exact offense that throws Saban off and you know the Achilles heal to Saban's predictable defense.
Everybody has seen what type of offense gives Saban fits, the problem is most don't have the personnel to pull it off regularly....except for Freeze...he's kinda had your number the last three years. This year his defense gave out.
On the NCAA thing and violations....wow you guys sure are very defensive. All I did was repeat all of the tinfoil hat accusations against Bama over the years. I prefaced the whole thing with the easiest way would be to create a better process and beat him on the field. But then again reading comprehension is not necessarily a prerequisite for entry into the University of Alabama
You guys are so sensitive....I must have touched a nerve with my making fun of these things. Something you guys want to talk about, maybe clear it with a lawyer first?
For the record I don't believe any of that stuff, I do however think after watching you guys for the last 8 yeas that I have an idea as to what types of teams give Saban problems. However, there are many LSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, UGA, MSU and Arky fans that do believe the recruiting accusations. They need a life.
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:07 pm to BillBrosky
PEDs or drug testing?
Honestly curious haven't heard about this
Honestly curious haven't heard about this
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:09 pm to Lsuchs
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Remember when Tennessee supposedly leaked info leading to sanctions on y'all?
Damn rogue booster, Logan Young!
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:11 pm to BillBrosky
It's always rogue activity as well... just like the DNC.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:11 pm to Lsuchs
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PEDs or drug testing?
I am curious about this as well. Do the schools administer the drug testing and the conference or NCAA the PEDs? Can't remember.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:12 pm to BillBrosky
OK, just to shutdown the tinfoil hat types on PED's , do they test for PED's only before the bowl games? Do they test for PED's at all during the regular season or street drugs only?
Do they test for PED's in the off season and during Spring practice?
I do know the answers to these questions.
Do they test for PED's in the off season and during Spring practice?
I do know the answers to these questions.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:13 pm to Lsuchs
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It's always rogue activity as well... just like the DNC.
True, but most on here make it sound like a conspiracy. Kind of silly when you read through all this.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:14 pm to KiwiHead
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OK, just to shutdown the tinfoil hat types on PED's , do they test for PED's only before the bowl games? Do they test for PED's at all during the regular season or street drugs only? Do they test for PED's in the off season and during Spring practice? I do know the answers to these questions.
All good questions!
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:16 pm to Lsuchs
I fail to see how penalties from years ago mean we are cheating now. Has Saban ever been found guilty of paying players?
Saban changed the whole culture at Bama when he came and got rid of the good ol' boys. I'm not saying the cheating doesn't happen but I'm sure Saban would not let it go on under his watch.
I've also said that the only thing that can stop Bama is a major scandal, Penn State style. Everyone thought JoPa was always on the up and up until that hit.
Another thing, if any Bama or Auburn fan throws stones about cheating to another fanbase, you look like an idiot.
Saban changed the whole culture at Bama when he came and got rid of the good ol' boys. I'm not saying the cheating doesn't happen but I'm sure Saban would not let it go on under his watch.
I've also said that the only thing that can stop Bama is a major scandal, Penn State style. Everyone thought JoPa was always on the up and up until that hit.
Another thing, if any Bama or Auburn fan throws stones about cheating to another fanbase, you look like an idiot.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:18 pm to BillBrosky
Just looked up steroid and HGH testing. Appears test levels can be determined from urine samples, but HGH requires blood work.
Honestly I doubt they do anything other than a 5 panel drug test for recreational drugs pre playoff. I could be wrong though
Honestly I doubt they do anything other than a 5 panel drug test for recreational drugs pre playoff. I could be wrong though
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:22 pm to KiwiHead
quote:If you know the answer then tell us Kiwi.
OK, just to shutdown the tinfoil hat types on PED's , do they test for PED's only before the bowl games? Do they test for PED's at all during the regular season or street drugs only?
Do they test for PED's in the off season and during Spring practice?
I do know the answers to these questions.
All I know is that the entire Alabama roster will have been tested by the NCAA at minimum 3 times in calendar year 2016. Jan 2016 for the championship game, Dec 2016 for SECCG, and again in Dec 2016 for the semi-final game.
IIRC, it's mandatory for the NCAA to test their student-athletes. Then I assume the conference has their own set of rules and requirements for testing and each school has their's as well.
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:24 pm to Syd
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I fail to see how penalties from years ago mean we are cheating now. Has Saban ever been found guilty of paying players?
He never will. Why would he directly pay players. Just like anything history sheds light on a situation. The fact that y'all were constantly on and off of probation and bowl bans shows a pattern, it increases likelyhood of foul play it is not proof. The alternative is your entire network suddenly became compliant in 2007.
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Saban changed the whole culture at Bama when he came and got rid of the good ol' boys. I'm not saying the cheating doesn't happen but I'm sure Saban would not let it go on under his watch.
Very wishful thinking IMO, and anyone else not involved in this situation as well id imagine.
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I've also said that the only thing that can stop Bama is a major scandal
Maybe, maybe not. A scandal has always been what stopped y'all but that is also because scandals have been so plentiful that so has success and punishment
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:24 pm to Lsuchs
quote:Why would they limit the tests to recreational drugs only? The NCAA is all about a level playing field, at minimum they should test for PEDs because they affect the performance on the field.
Just looked up steroid and HGH testing. Appears test levels can be determined from urine samples, but HGH requires blood work.
Honestly I doubt they do anything other than a 5 panel drug test for recreational drugs pre playoff. I could be wrong though
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:27 pm to RT1941
Just my opinion. Could be wrong but I haven't seen the purpose of the test posted in the last few pages.
That is the most common testing any time players are tested. I doubt they do blood work but I guess I could see testing urine for test levels
That is the most common testing any time players are tested. I doubt they do blood work but I guess I could see testing urine for test levels
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:27 pm to RT1941
DP
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:31 pm to Lsuchs
Also for Brosky. There is no official standard protocol via the NCAA or the SEC as to PED testing. It's not as though they have not tried on the NCAA's end but the leagues and some of the schools have always found ways to shut it down .
Each school usually has a penalty schedule for testing positive and most have a policy of random testing. However, there is no requirement that they must have one that they must report. Meaning, that the University of Alabama or any public university is not obliged to make the testing results of student athletes public. They can publish if they want. Auburn has basically a two strikes and you are out rule. 1st offense, suspension for 50% of the games that season. Florida has almost a zero tolerance on PED's - see Will Grier.
The NCAA does do testing before bowl games, but they don't do it in the off season where if reports are to be believed, is when most of the use occurs usually ending sometime before the end of June
Each school usually has a penalty schedule for testing positive and most have a policy of random testing. However, there is no requirement that they must have one that they must report. Meaning, that the University of Alabama or any public university is not obliged to make the testing results of student athletes public. They can publish if they want. Auburn has basically a two strikes and you are out rule. 1st offense, suspension for 50% of the games that season. Florida has almost a zero tolerance on PED's - see Will Grier.
The NCAA does do testing before bowl games, but they don't do it in the off season where if reports are to be believed, is when most of the use occurs usually ending sometime before the end of June
This post was edited on 12/20/16 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:37 pm to KiwiHead
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The NCAA does do testing before bowl games
For PEDs specifically or just drug testing in general?
Posted on 12/20/16 at 3:40 pm to KiwiHead
quote:The NCAA is busy as hell then, because there are +30 bowl games, then the playoffs. That's a shite ton of athletes to get piss samples from.
The NCAA does do testing before bowl games, but they don't do it in the off season where if reports are to be believed, is when most of the use occurs usually ending sometime before the end of June
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