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re: Why does Georgia act like Stockton is the answer?

Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:12 pm to
Posted by DawginSC
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:12 pm to
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UGA cannot win a championship with Stockton playing at the level he did against Texas period.

Texas has the best defense in the country so it’s reasonable to think he will play better against other teams but make no mistake UGA won despite his play not because of it.


Your post kind of suggests that UGA can win a championship with Stockton playing at that level.

You basically said Texas has the best defense UGA will face... and Stockton played well enough to beat Texas (I'm giving him credit for that win as UGA only scored 3 points with Beck as the QB in the first half). UGA effectively won the SEC title with Gunner Stockton playing "at that level".

If his level of play was good enough for UGA to win the SEC title against the best defense in college football... doesn't that indicate that he's probably good enough to lead UGA to wins against lesser defenses?

Posted by bpatters69
South Florida... Gay-torville.
Member since Sep 2012
828 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:18 pm to
Why are you Hornies so enfatuated with everything at UGA? Is it because Austin sucks? Why don't you simply transfer to UGA and live in a nice town at a great University?
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:20 pm to
Notre Dame will frick UGA up w/ Stockton at QB
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Notre Dame will frick UGA up w/ Stockton at QB


Okay if you think so.

Texas was unable to do that though. I personally think Texas is better than Notre Dame.

UGA hasn't won a single game this year on the back of elite QB play. They have a very good defense and a high talent level across the board. Their players are a little bigger and a little faster than their opponent and that combined with a well coached defense has caused a lot of wins.

An elite QB does make a big difference for a football team. But the reality is I'm not sure there is a single elite QB for ANY team in college football this year. Beck has been... fine. Stockton can be just as fine. It's not a huge ask.

Nobody is afraid of stockton. But nobody's afraid of Ewers, Leonard, Leavitt, Howard, Iamaleva, Rourke, Allar, Jennings, Klubnik or Madsen either. The only QB in the playoff who even creates a TINY bit of fear is Dillon Gabriel. And he doesn't create all that much.
Posted by Taurus 357
Great Lakes
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:36 pm to
Another Texas poster ranting on about UGA. The obsession is legit
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles/USC Trojans fan/alum
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:39 pm to
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Caught Texas off guard

Caught off guard??? You silly Moo Moo's don't know when to quit with your excuses!

But, since you insist you were "caught off guard', will you agree to the statement that Texas was "caught off guard" for a total of eight (8) quarters in losing two football games, one of which was on your own home field???

Why, of course you won't agree to that.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:42 pm to
Texas will play arch and win the 3match by 30
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:45 pm to
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Texas will play arch and win the 3match by 30


I'd be happy as a UGA fan to face Texas in the title game. That tells you all you need to know.



Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 12:57 pm to
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Your post kind of suggests that UGA can win a championship with Stockton playing at that level.

UGA doesn’t win that game if Stockton plays at that level and Texas has a week to gameplan for his skill set.

It’s entirely possible for UGA to win a game with him but it’s very unlikely they can beat enough elite teams with him to win the championship.
Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
1120 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:08 pm to
The eye in the sky doesn’t lie
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:27 pm to
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UGA doesn’t win that game if Stockton plays at that level and Texas has a week to gameplan for his skill set.

It’s entirely possible for UGA to win a game with him but it’s very unlikely they can beat enough elite teams with him to win the championship.


Stockton also probably plays a bit better if he gets a full week of snaps with the first team in practice like a starter would.

In fact, it probably benefits Stockton more than Texas... because there is very little tape available of Stockton, while getting first team reps in practice instead of being thrown in at the half after getting second team reps to prepare would have a much larger impact.

For whoever faces UGA in round 2 of the playoff, all they'll have to look at is the second half of the SECCG and garbage time of UGA's bowl game last year against FSU. That's the tape that exists for Stockton. The reality is that preparing to face an unknown doesn't help all that much. He's still an unknown.

Him getting more preparation helps a LOT more.

With no preparation, he played to almost an identical statistical level against Texas that Beck did WITH preparation.

Beck had a 59 QBR in that game. Stockton was at 65. Ewers was at 70.

That was with backup practice reps. The reality is that with starter reps, even if Texas had the whole week to prep... they have no film to prep with. It would be better for Stockton, not worse in 99% of scenarios.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6053 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

UGA won despite his play not because of it

Ppl literally said the same about Bennett and he did fine.
Posted by HunterDawg
Member since Oct 2024
286 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:01 pm to
Our RBs are now the healthiest and deepest they've been since spring, as is our O line. Dawgs are going to be a different team in the playoffs.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:01 pm to
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quote:
UGA won despite his play not because of it

Ppl literally said the same about Bennett and he did fine.


What's funny is people say that like it's a negative for UGA.

It's not. It's a huge positive. Yes, UGA is the type of team that can beat top tier opponents "despite" not having good QB play. That's not a negative at all. It means that we're not dependent upon good QB play to win against top teams.

But occasionally we DO get good QB play. And that should scare the hell out of everyone else when they realize that we can still win without that.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:13 pm to
What little Pug Dawg comes in if Stockton goes down?
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:24 pm to
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What little Pug Dawg comes in if Stockton goes down?


Gunner Stockton is UGA's #2. RS Sophomore.

4-star. .9506 composite rating. Ranked 124th in his class.

UGA's 3rd string is Jaden Rashada. RS Frosh (played 3 games last year before injury)

4-star. .9623 composite rating. Ranked as 81st overall in his class. Transfer from ASU (after not being paid by UF).

UGA's 4th string is Ryan Puglisi. True Freshman.

4-star. .9487 composite rating. Ranked as 114th overall in his class.
Posted by Lolathon234
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Posted on 12/20/24 at 2:57 pm to
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 2:58 pm
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17049 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 4:02 pm to
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Ppl literally said the same about Bennett and he did fine.

The knock on Bennett was that he was limited physically, but statistically later in his career he was a top 10 QB. He was a 176 and 161 rtg guy regardless of what his arm strength was or wasn’t.

Stockton has far less talent around him to work with, far less experience and his limited book of work is nowhere close to what Bennett had shown. How many players from this years UGA team would start for Bennetts offenses? Not many.

UGA has an extremely limited offense this year. To make it work they have to be able to pass downfield. It’s how they came back against Bama and beat TN. Despite Becks INT issues when he was on he was able to make enough explosive plays to keep the safeties back, give the run game some lanes and score just enough to pick up wins.

If Stockton can’t do that I’m not saying you can’t win A game, I’m just saying the odds of you winning ALL the games aren’t good at all.
This post was edited on 12/20/24 at 8:16 pm
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14154 posts
Posted on 12/20/24 at 5:20 pm to
If only he had playing time against a top 2 team with a great defense
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