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re: Why do folks think we are going to 9 conference games?

Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:56 pm to
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 4:56 pm to
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Because we should. 10 should be mandatory.

& 10 gives Ga./Fl./SC/Ky. with ONLY 1 open slot while the other 12 has 2 to schedule anybody.

Don't blame us for having non-conf. in-state rivalries.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58880 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:04 pm to
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SEC has 'ample support' for 9-game league slate


The coaches quotes were Utx, TAMU, and Tide

None of which have historic games outside of the conference. Pretty much all the East teams have long standing OOC's and a few West do as well.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58880 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:06 pm to
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Don't blame us for having non-conf. in-state rivalries.


Preach it!

Better answer would be for the schools in the West to play 8 and add another OOC to match the East schools
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:33 pm to
You can't have part of the conf. play 8 games & the other 9...the rotation cycles would be off.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:36 pm to
frick em
If Bama fans would rather play vandy over Penn St, let them schedule it.

It blows my mind that fans hate OOC scheduling and never complain to the very people that their money pays who handle it.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 5:44 pm to
What would solve this is make GT/FSU/Clemson/Louisville SEC members & then see what they say.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:01 pm to
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CFB revenue is split roughly 3 ways


No it isn't.

quote:

1/3 from TV
1/3 from LIVE event
1/3 from donors



Where did you get this?

The majority of SEC teams make over 50%
of their revenue from TV (do the math) and once the new TV deal kicks in the percentage will go up higher especially
if we go to 9 games.The more SEC vs SEC
content the better.

P5 OOC games are starting to make less and less sense economically as are the OOC rent a wins.
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 8:08 pm
Posted by Pisco
Mayfield, Kentucky
Member since Dec 2019
4121 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:16 pm to
A nine game schedule would eliminate the FCS opponent everyone gets. No more games versus Chattanooga, Mercer, GA Southern, Austin Peay, etc. You can still have your UK-UL, UF-FSU games.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:39 pm to
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A nine game schedule would eliminate the FCS opponent everyone gets.


Not really.

The Alabama athletic department choosing to not schedule fcs opponents would eliminate the ones that your team gets.

If you ask for it, you may get it.
But so long as there are 2 OOC games, you may still get an fcs.
Posted by southernboisb
Member since Dec 2012
8580 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:44 pm to
You CAN'T do 2 different rotation #'s...somebody will go through more teams faster.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
14114 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:46 pm to
Short answer is its getting to hard to schedule ooc games and these shitty opponents are demanding upwards of $2m.
Posted by SaturdayNAthens
Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
11756 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:01 pm to
“Joe Georgia” isn’t representative of a large number of UGA fans. A lot of Georgia fans want the GT game to go away. That game isn’t close to being competitive anymore and that every other year trip to the worst stadium I’ve ever visited - and I’ve been to many- is pure hell. Trash the GT game and add Clemson or if we are feeling charitable add Ga Southern or Ga State. Better competitions and much nicer fans plus helping out another state program
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 8:02 pm
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:06 pm to
So since you don’t know what your talking bout… UGA and UF also want 9.

That gives them 4 at home and away every year.. plus double the money for Jax. Every year.. plus 4 Conf games every year plus a 5th home game with GT and FSU respectively, they can schedule Miami, Clemson , or some other big OOC game, plus have the one G5 game with Ga Southern or App state or UCF.

No to mention getting every other Conf school at home once every 4 years.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58880 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:07 pm to
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Where did you get this?


From an AD in the SEC pre covid


quote:

The more SEC vs SEC content the better.


That is B1G thinking where a few teams dominate and the rest are cannon fodder for 2 - 4 B1G teams in any given year. SEC has more than 4 power teams each season.

quote:

P5 OOC games are starting to make less and less sense economically as are the OOC rent a wins.


Many of the SEC's "Rent a wins" are with SoCon schools and probably carry over from the days when the SEC schools were part of the SoCon Superconference.

Football (with no more ties) is now a zero sum game, every winner creates a loser and every SEC loss means less chance for a bowl game. That is playing right into the B1G's hand by saying the SEC and B1G are equal when they are not.
Posted by AubieinNC2009
Mountain NC
Member since Dec 2018
6414 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:30 pm to
who says you cant man up and play a tough opponent for #10 or keep the other conference rivals?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:34 pm to
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From an AD in the SEC pre covid


No you didn't.

I'll be glad to list CFB revenue numbers Collage athletic revenue database

Click on any team (take out COVID year)
you can see the football revenue generated by SEC schools and subtract the roughly $55 million from TV revenue
and see what you come up.Even the big 6
are close to the 50% threshold.

The AD you were talking to either doesn't know basic math or he's referring to the way finances worked 25
years ago or you just made it up.


quote:

That is B1G thinking where a few teams dominate and the rest are cannon fodder for 2 - 4 B1G teams in any given year. SEC has more than 4 power teams each season


No it isn't...it's basic finance.
A 9 game schedule translates to more high profile SEC games in a season which equates to more revenue for the new TV deal ( negotiated off a 8 game schedule)

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:41 pm to
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No it isn't...it's basic finance.
A 9 game schedule translates to more high profile SEC games in a season which equates to more revenue for the new TV deal ( negotiated off a 8 game schedule)


You may get 1 more high profile game a season. That is it (half of the conference is below average. That 9th game for all of them is by definition not high profile. Even if they include a ranked team).

You eliminate 7 games for TV, radio, and possibly home crowds (city revenue)
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27837 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:50 pm to
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You may get 1 more high profile game a season. That is it (half of the conference is below average. That 9th game for all of them is by definition not high profile. Even if they include a ranked team).



Doesn't really have to be high profile.
A SEC vs SEC matchup is far more desirable than a rent a win on the SECN
or SECNA.

It translates to better content for ABC/ESPN/SECN which is gonna translate to more TV revenue.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58880 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:51 pm to
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I'll be glad to list CFB revenue numbers


Great, now where does it show donations for a non sports building that came from a donor wanting sports tickets? Do you think this does not happen?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26005 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:55 pm to
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Doesn't really have to be high profile.


His argument was all of these great matchups. It was bullshite.

quote:

A SEC vs SEC matchup is far more desirable than a rent a win on the SECN

Then schedule Clemson, notre dame, Oregon, and Ohio State.

That is the only part of scheduling each school CAN control (quality of OOC)
quote:


It translates to better content for ABC/ESPN/SECN which is gonna translate to more TV revenue


I'm not watching Missouri vs Arkansas.
You tell lies.
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