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re: Why do college football/basketball players feel they are so deserving to be paid?
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:09 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:09 pm to Goldrush25
quote:Just do the JFF - Johnny fricking Football autograph circuit, right? Go visit the folks back home and sit at the dinning room table signing shite for hours, or go to Mom's car and sign a trunk full of footballs & shite till your hand falls off.
Sure there is, allow the athletes that can earn money from their likenesses to do so. Let the sell autographs, make appearances, whatever. If no one wants you, too bad. There doesn't have to be an equitable system here. The ones that can earn money on their own as dictated by demand should be able to do so.
Make mom's & pop's some $$ while you're at it - pay some rent/electric bills all in one afternoon signing session. Hell, old Laremy Tunsil would've been on easy street if he hadn't had to go through Barney Farrar to get Momma's bills paid every month.
Nothing illicit could possibly go wrong with this right? What's stopping a player from "making an appearance" at the local Mall on Sunday afternoon...sit at a table and sign all sorts of shite for a few hours and make bank? If you're a stud that balled out the day before in the LSU/Bama game you could really rake it in at the local Mall.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 1:11 pm
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:11 pm to pvilleguru
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Most fans that follow a team can at least probably name one of the team's top prospects.
I will tell you this....I used to be in several Rotisserie Baseball Leagues in which we kept a 4 man minor league. I could name just about the entire roster of every baseball team, and several minor league players from each team. After I quit doing rotisserie leagues, I became a casual fan, and i could not name a single minor league player. Period. My brothers and father could name 2-3 minor league players for the Braves,(Years ago) but now they couldn't name any, I would bet.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:12 pm to RT1941
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Nothing illicit could possibly go wrong with this right?
I don't see anything wrong with that.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:13 pm to DawgsLife
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Even though they are paid only during the six-month regular season, American Hockey League players earn a minimum of $42,375 per year. The average annual salary in the AHL, the equivalent of baseball’s Triple-A classification, is more than $90,000. Players’ per diem at that level is $65.
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Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:14 pm to RT1941
I know you are making fun, but many, many years ago George Bell of the Toronto BlueJays made $40,000 for signing autographs for 3-4 hours. Memorabilia is a huge business with a lot of money involved.
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I just tried to find corroborating evidence for my George Bell story and cannot find it anywhere. I am positive I read it shortly after it happened. I used to collect a lot of memorabilia.
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I just tried to find corroborating evidence for my George Bell story and cannot find it anywhere. I am positive I read it shortly after it happened. I used to collect a lot of memorabilia.
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:21 pm to Goldrush25
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Well you just said it, these guys aren't suited for educational institutions, so why should they be basically forced to go there to get to their chosen career fields?
They aren't forced to do anything. They choose to because it's proven to be the best route for them to do so.
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So why can't the leagues just allow whoever wants to come in after high school to come in?
They can, they choose not to..I'd assume like almost every other decision the leagues make it's based on profitability in some way.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:25 pm to RT1941
State U's new recruiting poster..."Our student athletes made $4.9 million in autographs last year." Come to State U!
What's the diff between this and just having the booster say up front, "I won't give you anything to sign with my school, but I'll be first in line to buy your autograph at the mall?"
Would this be fair to the schools without nearby malls
What's the diff between this and just having the booster say up front, "I won't give you anything to sign with my school, but I'll be first in line to buy your autograph at the mall?"
Would this be fair to the schools without nearby malls
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:27 pm to TroyTider
I still don't see a problem.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:28 pm to DawgsLife
quote:Some folks see nothing wrong with college players doing just that.
I know you are making fun, but many, many years ago George Bell of the Toronto BlueJays made $40,000 for signing autographs for 3-4 hours. Memorabilia is a huge business with a lot of money involved.
Imagine how much Leonard Fournette, Laremey Tunsil, Johnny fricking Football, Calvin Ridley, Cam Newton, Derrick Henry, Todd Gurley, or the dozens of other star athletes could've raked in after their highlight reels from their Saturday performances. Tua could be an 18 yr old millionaire today just off his over time TD in the NC game 2 months ago. All he'd have to do is set up autograph sessions every weekend all across the state and he'd cash in big time.
The whole idea is
and will never be allowed.Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:29 pm to pvilleguru
I really don't care if a booster wants to give a kid $1m.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 1:39 pm to TroyTider
quote:Imagine how much $$ your Troy players could've pulled in after that big LSU win in Baton Rouge. The Half Shell Oyster Bar & Grill could've hosted the whole event and the players would be set for the season.
State U's new recruiting poster..."Our student athletes made $4.9 million in autographs last year." Come to State U!
What's the diff between this and just having the booster say up front, "I won't give you anything to sign with my school, but I'll be first in line to buy your autograph at the mall?"
Would this be fair to the schools without nearby malls
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:28 pm to Crowknowsbest
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You think the player would get the same national recognition if he went to a no-name school?
What does national name recognition matter? Nike has known who Deandre Ayton was and that he would likely be a pro basketball player since he was 15. Why shouldn't Deandre Ayton be able to sign a shoe contract with them if they offer it?
A Georgia fan should know better.
I had to Google to find out that your center last year was Lamont Gaillard...and we just played you two months ago. So relatively speaking, he doesn't have much name recognition. But I would bet the house that your network of donors can help him get a much bigger pile of money for autographing photos and footballs than the best player at Georgia State or Georgia Southern.
You don't think your national name recognition and being able to tap into that kind of donor network isn't going to greatly affect the amount of money your players can get?
Hell, in Tuscaloosa, no doubt our donors could guarantee even the long snapper a quarter mil a year.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 2:48 pm to GenesChin
The problem is there is no alternatives for a college football player not draft eligible to financially be rewarded for the value they provide. The lack of competition for their services is the problem
The problem for the players is, outside of the university affiliation, there is no demand for their services right out of high school. No one is going to pay to see relatively unskilled 18-20 year olds play football without the sentimental or regional attachment that universities provide. If Leonard Fournette of the Baton Rouge Bears lined up against Derrick Henry of the Tuscaloosa Thundercats in the Developmental Football Association, how many eyeballs on that compared to an LSU/Alabama matchup? Those players would be making pocket change and washing their own jerseys after the game.
(I realize those two are outliers and could have made it in the league a year after high school. But they weren’t ready right out of the preps. So they’d still need a place for a year to hone their skills.)
Posted on 3/15/18 at 3:00 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:Good post!
The problem for the players is, outside of the university affiliation, there is no demand for their services right out of high school. No one is going to pay to see relatively unskilled 18-20 year olds play football without the sentimental or regional attachment that universities provide. If Leonard Fournette of the Baton Rouge Bears lined up against Derrick Henry of the Tuscaloosa Thundercats in the Developmental Football Association, how many eyeballs on that compared to an LSU/Alabama matchup? Those players would be making pocket change and washing their own jerseys after the game.
(I realize those two are outliers and could have made it in the league a year after high school. But they weren’t ready right out of the preps. So they’d still need a place for a year to hone their skills.)
And they'll still need the exposure they gain from playing in the SEC on national TV every weekend and the tough competition a P5 program brings to the table so that they can showcase their talents for the pro's to see.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:02 pm to TDcline
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Why do college football/basketball players feel they are so deserving to be paid?
Because coaches/administrators/universities/conferences make hundreds of millions of dollars off of them
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:15 pm to logjamming
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What institution makes this? The vast majority of athletic departments operate at a loss and need government subsidies.
The NCAA
Posted on 3/15/18 at 4:38 pm to RT1941
Wiley sanders truck line was prepared To sponsor the offensive line men Several years ago. The NCAA did not approve of these boys getting a pre-paid and open tab at the half shell. Lol
Posted on 3/15/18 at 6:56 pm to TDcline
Yeah and damn coach shouldn't be making MILLIONS. In a lot of states a damn college coach is the highest paid employee. Oh and they can leave and go to a different school at anytime.
Posted on 3/15/18 at 8:36 pm to airfernando
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nobody is stopping these people from profiting. They just aren't allowed to profit from playing college football and remain eligible. They are welcome to get a real job.
You're just talking out of your arse. A football player was declared ineligible by the NCAA and lost his scholarship last year because his YOUTUBE CHANNEL was making money
This post was edited on 3/15/18 at 8:39 pm
Posted on 3/15/18 at 9:12 pm to TDcline
If they shouldn’t get paid, then why can’t they earn money of their own likeness at least.
All athletes have said they struggle while in college because they are broke and can’t even hold a job because it’s against the NCAA rules.
All athletes have said they struggle while in college because they are broke and can’t even hold a job because it’s against the NCAA rules.
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