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Why didn't the Alabama player get called for targeting?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:13 am
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:13 am
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Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:13 am to Mindless Zombie
We own everything, that's why. DWI
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:14 am to Mindless Zombie
In the Bammer/TAMU game yesterday the CBS guys both couldn't figure why it wasn't targeting on that player - I think his name was Noil.
Soon they heard from the SEC officials - Noil wasn't a defenseless player so it wasn't targeting.
CBS to their credit quickly had the rules on the screen. And what the SEC officials said was false.
"1) No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.
This specifies a hit with the top of the helmet, but not necessarily a hit to the opponent’s helmet.
The next item in the rulebook, including the aforementioned "Note 1," which explains the many additional situations in which all kinds of hits are considered targeting:
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball..."
Okay, in both the UT game where Evan Berry was hit crown to crown by a Bammer player and the TAMU game where this TAMU player was blatantly hit helmet to helmet, clear targeting under the rule wasn't called.
The SEC office went out of its way (I am assuming they know the rules) to misrepresent the rules, which is pretty crappy.
Soon they heard from the SEC officials - Noil wasn't a defenseless player so it wasn't targeting.
CBS to their credit quickly had the rules on the screen. And what the SEC officials said was false.
"1) No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul.
This specifies a hit with the top of the helmet, but not necessarily a hit to the opponent’s helmet.
The next item in the rulebook, including the aforementioned "Note 1," which explains the many additional situations in which all kinds of hits are considered targeting:
No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)
Note 1: "Targeting" means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball..."
Okay, in both the UT game where Evan Berry was hit crown to crown by a Bammer player and the TAMU game where this TAMU player was blatantly hit helmet to helmet, clear targeting under the rule wasn't called.
The SEC office went out of its way (I am assuming they know the rules) to misrepresent the rules, which is pretty crappy.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:16 am to Mindless Zombie
Because the refs were in shock and awe at that amazing hit and their brains literally couldn't process what to do next.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:17 am to Mindless Zombie
Because it wasn't targeting? Dunno
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:18 am to WhiskeyPapa
you're new to the game....this has
been going on for decades and i ain't talking shite.....its real
been going on for decades and i ain't talking shite.....its real
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:21 am to WhiskeyPapa
Papa still struggling with reading comprhension, lol.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:22 am to elit4ce05
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Because it wasn't targeting? Dunno
Under the NCAA rule it couldn't have been more clear, and also so was the hit on Evan Berry last week.
"1) No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown (top) of his helmet. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul."
Again the thing to me is that from what the SEC officals in B'ham apparently told the CBS crew -- the rule above does not apply.
Since we can assume they know the rules, they misrepresented how the rules read.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:22 am to chizhead
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you're new to the game....this has
been going on for decades and i ain't talking shite.....its real
Take it from an Auburn fan, he knows all about it.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:25 am to Mindless Zombie
maybe i'm missing something but was that the first call since they made the rule that was missed?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:25 am to Mindless Zombie
It wasn't targeting.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:26 am to WhiskeyPapa
Get over it,refs didn't call it,review didn't call it,he was not a defenseless player,pussy. Maybe that should just wear flags or play two hand touch.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:26 am to Mindless Zombie
Do you even REC bro?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:27 am to Mindless Zombie
Plain and simple. Anytime , anything that has money involve can and will be corrupted we talking big business. Called will always seem to lean with the $ ???????
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:30 am to Mindless Zombie
Doesnt matter what the call should have been, Gary will whine about it for the next 10 minutes. He use to be the saving grace of that duo. But his increasing whining about the violence of the game the last 3 or so years makes his impact on the game viewing experience a negative one.
I really hope they get rid of Gary when Verne leaves.
I really hope they get rid of Gary when Verne leaves.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:30 am to elit4ce05
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he was not a defenseless player,
This is the first bullshite excuse they gave, after everyone brought up the rules, I heard the announcers say multiple times that they were being told that "the hit was not made by the crown of the helmet" which is also bullshite.
Any other player on any other team would have been tossed for that play and all of you gumps know it.
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:31 am to bigman334
It's not in the refs hands to miss anymore. There are refs in birmingham that can stop play after review if they feel it fits. This has been called many times, and they were called out by CBS for it. Then later in the came an aggie gets ejected for targeting? I call bs on it.
And has the SEC come out with what "not defenseless means" yet?
And has the SEC come out with what "not defenseless means" yet?
Posted on 10/23/16 at 10:32 am to tigerland81
The replay center is located in the SEC offices in Birmingham, Alabama which has a plaque of Bear Bryant as you walk in. Steve Shaw, a rare bammer graduate is the head of officiating in the SEC. Also, 63% of the refs in the SEC live in Alabama. This is like screaming at the TV when an SEC basketball team doesn't get a call against Kentucky. It has been this way forever.
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