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re: Why did Sewanee, G Tech, and Tulane all leave the SEC?
Posted on 11/22/10 at 3:10 pm to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 11/22/10 at 3:10 pm to I-59 Tiger
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He had no problem with giving a number of scholarships as long as there was no composite requiring schools to 'cut players'. SEC presidents split on his proposal and Tech left.
This is more like it. GT was BY FAR the richest school in the SEC back then, and they could afford to have huge numbers of athletes on scholarship. The SEC (made up of otherwise much poorer schools) had a limit though, and when Bryant refused to vote with GT to loosen the scholarship ceiling, GT left because they thought they'd be better off on their own.
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Posted on 11/22/10 at 3:15 pm to attheua
But Georgia Tech didn't want to drop any players--the other SEC schools didn't have an issue. If you could give out 45 scholarships, Dodd wanted Tech to be able to have 180. He thought the other schools were doing glorified tryouts.
Georgia Tech and Dodd felt Bryant was going to work with them and believed him when he said he could persuade the school presidents to vote in Tech's way but Bryant didn't show up for the meeting as Tech claims he said he'd do.
Georgia Tech and Dodd felt Bryant was going to work with them and believed him when he said he could persuade the school presidents to vote in Tech's way but Bryant didn't show up for the meeting as Tech claims he said he'd do.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:13 pm to I-59 Tiger
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But Georgia Tech didn't want to drop any players--the other SEC schools didn't have an issue. If you could give out 45 scholarships, Dodd wanted Tech to be able to have 180. He thought the other schools were doing glorified tryouts.
Georgia Tech and Dodd felt Bryant was going to work with them and believed him when he said he could persuade the school presidents to vote in Tech's way but Bryant didn't show up for the meeting as Tech claims he said he'd do.
Yep. Same as Saban (and others) are doing now, like I said.
And yes, Bear chickened out and lied to Dodd also. He promised he would vote against it. When he learned it would be deadlocked and if he did not vote against it, the deadlock would be broken in favor of tryouts and cuts, he did not even show to the meeting (the ONLY one who did not).
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:14 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
That's exactly what Tuberville did when he came to Auburn in 1999.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:16 pm to I-59 Tiger
Not saying Tubs did not. What I am saying is it is wrong today and it was wrong then.
Bryant and Bama were the reason GT left the SEC. And Bryant lied and was a chickenshit to not show.
Bryant and Bama were the reason GT left the SEC. And Bryant lied and was a chickenshit to not show.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:19 pm to I-59 Tiger
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:23 pm to Duckie
I wish Sewanee could come back into the SEC for Vandy's sake.
If Vandy had a team to kick around they might improve.
If Vandy had a team to kick around they might improve.
This post was edited on 11/22/10 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:42 pm to TenTex
Nice season for sewanee, but do you know who won the mnc that year (1899)?
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:54 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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G tech left due to Alabama oversigning and cutting players like Saban is doing now.
Bobby Dodd said it was wrong and he refused to do it and believed it created an uneven playing field for the Bear and Bama. He was right.
Alabama and GT continued playing one another for years after the Yellowjackets left the SEC.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 4:58 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Bryant and Bama were the reason GT left the SEC. And Bryant lied and was a chickenshit to not show.
Back then, Alabama was to the SEC what Texas is to the Big 12. We could do whatever we wanted because we deserved it. So
all you want, but that is the way it is (was). Yea we ran GT off and I am glad. It is a shitty program with shitty facilities who would be doing nothing but leaching off the SEC right now.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:03 pm to baybeefeetz
Sewanee: The University of the South
Hell of a party school, they would have some epic tailgates if they were still in the SEC.
Hell of a party school, they would have some epic tailgates if they were still in the SEC.
Posted on 11/22/10 at 5:04 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
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G tech left due to Alabama oversigning and cutting players like Saban is doing now.
Bobby Dodd said it was wrong and he refused to do it and believed it created an uneven playing field for the Bear and Bama. He was right.
I also heard he gave them unmarked ATM cards.
Come on. Auburn is historically one of the dirtiest programs ever. If Vandy wants to complain, then ok. If you want to complain about other teams, then Eric Ramsey say shut up. Until you can control Pat Dye and his pants, you should probably not talk about uneven playing fields.
Beyond that Auburn is kicking butt at oversigning.com. Number 1 since 2002. Suck it Oregon!
Posted on 11/25/10 at 12:03 am to TulaneTigerFan
Posted on 11/25/10 at 12:27 am to ole orange
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Sewanee: The University of the South
Hell of a party school, they would have some epic tailgates if they were still in the SEC
Diggin' the Sewanee love in this thread. Be glad we're not in the SEC anymore because the Sewanee Tigers would have to show you boys how it is done
Posted on 11/25/10 at 12:56 am to WG_Dawg
Wasn't there something unusual about Sewanee's school year? I think I read somewhere that they started their school year several months before other schools. Thus their footbal team had months of practice before playing against schools who started their school years around September 1st.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 8:12 am to Monticello
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Back then, Alabama was to the SEC what Texas is to the Big 12.
What in the world are you talking about?
I-A Winning Percentage 1950-1969 (20 years)
1 Mississippi 0.75935
2 Oklahoma 0.75120
3 Arizona State 0.73632
4 Ohio State 0.73497
5 Miami-Ohio 0.73057
6 Princeton 0.73056
7 Wyoming 0.72525
8 Texas 0.71934
9 Penn State 0.71106
10 Michigan State 0.69681
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ETA:
Or did you mean something more like how Texas underachieves in the Big 12...
Big 12 Championship game results:
2000 8 Kansas State 24–27 1 Oklahoma
2001 9 Colorado 39–37 3 Texas
2002 12 Colorado 7–29 8 Oklahoma
2003 15 Kansas State 35–7 1 Oklahoma
2004 N/A Colorado 3–42 2 Oklahoma
2005 N/A Colorado 3–70 2 Texas
2006 19 Nebraska 7–21 8 Oklahoma
2007 1 Missouri 17–38 9 Oklahoma
2008 19 Missouri 21–62 4 Oklahoma
2009 21 Nebraska 12–13 3 Texas
This post was edited on 11/25/10 at 8:22 am
Posted on 11/25/10 at 8:33 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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WildTchoupitoulas
BOOM!
Posted on 11/25/10 at 8:37 am to Duckie
They were tired of the racists, rednecks and coonasses that permeate the SEC. Oh and the non-stop cheating.
This post was edited on 11/25/10 at 8:39 am
Posted on 11/25/10 at 9:07 am to Xihix
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I believe something that angered Dodd a lot about Alabama also involved this incident:
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Highly-respected Atlanta Journal Constitution sports editor Furman Bisher wrote a lengthy article for The Saturday Evening Post entitled "College Football is going berserk" in which he claimed that Bryant coached his team to deliberately try and knock opposing players senseless using dirty and illegal tactics. Bisher had attended several Alabama practices and noted what he felt was an attempt to teach improper technique including the throwing of forearms which had resulted in Graning's injury.
Several years ago, Finebaum had Bisher on for an interview. Over 40 years later, Bisher was a still a seething ball of hate. I'm sure a shrink could fill up a notebook during a 60 minute session with him.
Posted on 11/25/10 at 12:13 pm to WG_Dawg
Sewanee- offically University if the South, is a great small school. Has a proud tradition on the lower divisions. I went to the 1-3 grades in Sewanee. My 3rd grade teacher was Mrs Majors, her husband was the football coach. Thier sons-
Johnny and Bobby Majors, cool.
Also their mascot is the Tigers.
Johnny and Bobby Majors, cool.
Also their mascot is the Tigers.
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