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re: Why can't Auburn maintain success.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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His handling of the ticket stuff is not overblown. It's a disaster.
You can decide whether that matters or not in terms of an AD keeping his job, but that whole mess is the kind of stuff that can't happen at a major University. Doesn't matter to me, I'm not the one getting screwed, but every one of my big donor Auburn family members is fvckin irrate at the buddy buddy nature of Jacobs and the department.
He handled that like most ADs would have. The problem was Auburn Fans were use to calling and complaining about an issue and the AD would go out of their way to appease them. You have a group that wants JJ to be more professional, but when he does respond in that manner, they get their feelings hurt. Not a JJ fan, but a realist.
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Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:11 pm to Irons Puppet
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He handled that like most ADs would have.
He absolutely did not. Most departments have very specific ticketing policies in place for those instances because they are good controls and because it insulates people from charges of favoring certain people over others (which is a secondary goal of all internal controls). I know because I look at a BUNCH of Division 1 ticketing procedure controls for audits. What Auburn had in place was straight out of 1983, and it is because Jacobs isn't equipped to run a major business and generally only hires his buddies or yes men who are also not up to task.
Again, I don't care either way, this sort of stuff only penalizes Auburn people.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:11 pm to JustGetItRight
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Here's one: Clemson.
Three losing seasons in the last 40 years while not having the benefit of a state name, sitting in a city 1/4 the size of Auburn, and in a state not known for being a talent hotbed.
I will counter that with two words: ACC, South Carolina.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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He absolutely did not. Most departments have very specific ticketing policies in place for those instances because they are good controls and because it insulates people from charges of favoring certain people over others (which is a secondary goal of all internal controls). I know because I look at a BUNCH of Division 1 ticketing procedure controls for audits. What Auburn had in place was straight out of 1983.
So you do not think certain customers get favorable treatment ? It happens in Athletics and in Business.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:14 pm to Irons Puppet
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So you do not think certain customers get favorable treatment ?
When it comes to doling out tickets for which there is a very clear and well established hierarchy for who gets them based on donations and standing in the organization?
If you are going to give certain customers favorable treatment you damn sure better not skip others ahead of them in line because the ones getting the favorable treatment are your buddies.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:15 pm to RT1941
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Proves how flukey AU's success is.
A Dawg would give their left nut to taste some of that flukey success.
2 great years for 6 bad ones? I don't know about that. Anyways, Uga is far from relevent to this thread. Dont be an auburn deflector.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:17 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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When it comes to doling out tickets for which there is a very clear and well established hierarchy for who gets them based on donations and standing in the organization?
If you are going to give certain customers favorable treatment you damn sure better not skip others ahead of them in line because the ones getting the favorable treatment are your buddies.
Again, those buddies are big contributors to the program. What is written in policy for the masses, doesn't always apply to the 1%. It happens everywhere.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:20 pm to djsdawg
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2 great years for 6 bad ones? I don't know about that.
That is why you will always be Georgia.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:20 pm to Irons Puppet
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What is written in policy for the masses, doesn't always apply to the 1%. It happens everywhere.
That is true. The problem Jacobs has is he skipped non-buddy portions of the 1% (in many cases who were higher in the 1% group) to favor only his buddies in the 1%.
That's really stupid and it's a really bad look for the guy who runs a business/athletic department. That's the problem, and that's why a lot of the rich Auburn folks want to kick him in the balls.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:21 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Let's just say that if I donated $50,000 a year and was passed over for tickets to the National Championship for a guy who is the AD's buddy who gives $25,000 a year I would be fvckin irrate.
If I then learned that the AD's buddy was given 10 tickets when I got 0 and that he sold them on the open market and made money for himself, I would try to get the guy fired.
If I then learned that the AD's buddy was given 10 tickets when I got 0 and that he sold them on the open market and made money for himself, I would try to get the guy fired.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:27 pm to tivey6301
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"If" we're taking things away, why don't we each take 2 National Championships from the other and then see what each is left with...
Haha, I'll just start claiming 1913, 1983, and 2004.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:28 pm to Irons Puppet
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2 great years for 6 bad ones? I don't know about that.
That is why you will always be Georgia.
This doesn't make a lick of sense. Try to come up with something better than this, or better yet, focus on auburn and quit deflecting.
This post was edited on 2/24/16 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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That is true. The problem Jacobs has is he skipped non-buddy portions of the 1% (in many cases who were higher in the 1% group) to favor only his buddies in the 1%.
That's really stupid and it's a really bad look for the guy who runs a business/athletic department. That's the problem, and that's why a lot of the rich Auburn folks want to kick him in the balls.
Look, I am not a defender of JJ. That said, I know Auburn Fans have bitched about the minutia within the program, while ignoring the plank in the eye. JJs biggest problem is his personality, he sounds like a "good ole boy" so some are embarrassed to have him represent the University. By all accounts he is a good man, but AU does need some new blood in that role. But not because of the ticket program.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:29 pm to JustGetItRight
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Here's one: Clemson.
They do well for sure but not as good as Auburn and they fight So Car while we fight Alabama. They also don't play in the SEC.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:32 pm to djsdawg
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2 great years for 6 bad ones? I don't know about that.
That is why you will always be Georgia.
This doesn't make sense. Try to come up with something better than this.
Because UGA spent this century basking in mediocrity while everyone around them played for or won Championships. Happy for consistency, while oblivious to the brass ring.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I gotta wonder how those 1% felt when Jacobs sent them the letter a few weeks ago regarding the proposed +$150mm renovation to JHS?
That is true. The problem Jacobs has is he skipped non-buddy portions of the 1% (in many cases who were higher in the 1% group) to favor only his buddies in the 1%. That's really stupid and it's a really bad look for the guy who runs a business/athletic department.
That's the problem, and that's why a lot of the rich Auburn folks want to kick him in the balls.
He basically went to the top AU donors, asked for their opinion on the plans and said if they want it they'll have to pony up and pay for it.
Is the reason for the constant delays and taking the plans "back to the drawing board" because he's pissed some of them off?
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:45 pm to RandySavage
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Haha, I'll just start claiming 1913, 1983, and 2004.
Even if you did claim those, Bama has you beat only counting from 1990 on... Heck, in 7 years Bama has amassed twice as many NC's as auburn has in 159+ years...
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:48 pm to Irons Puppet
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2 great years for 6 bad ones? I don't know about that.
That is why you will always be Georgia.
This doesn't make sense. Try to come up with something better than this.
Because UGA spent this century basking in mediocrity while everyone around them played for or won Championships. Happy for consistency, while oblivious to the brass ring.
My opinion about choosing between consistency vs a whole bunch of losses mixed with in with isolated flukes has no bearing on what happens on a field. You are using your Typical "I am from the Atlanta area but am a Uga reject" logic again.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:48 pm to RT1941
How many friends did he make when he modernized the Tail Gating.
Quite a few I'm sure.
Quite a few I'm sure.
Posted on 2/24/16 at 12:52 pm to RT1941
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I gotta wonder how those 1% felt when Jacobs sent them the letter a few weeks ago regarding the proposed +$150mm renovation to JHS?
He basically went to the top AU donors, asked for their opinion on the plans and said if they want it they'll have to pony up and pay for it.
Is the reason for the constant delays and taking the plans "back to the drawing board" because he's pissed some of them off?
The delay is due to the issue of having to disrupt 10K season ticket holders in order to redo the North Endzone. This is not like an addition to a stadium, most of those seats will be unavailable for one season. Plus there are some design issues with the original plan. I think the BOTs have or will approve $75M of the project already.
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