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re: Who’s your surprise East team?

Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:03 pm to
Of those, Tennessee. They're in their best position in years.

I worry Kentucky will struggle with expectations.

Florida will only do it if some of the new guys on offense have breakout seasons.
Posted by mouse_cop
The South
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:10 pm to
Based on the replies, it sounds like Kentucky is expected to be solid and is not the correct answer for a “surprise” team.

The correct answer for any unbiased party is the Missouri Tigers, as they will surprise fans around the country as they stun Georgia on their way back to Atlanta
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Vanderbilt

Already averaging 63 points a game


On target to have the greatest offense in CFB history.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58925 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:35 pm to
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Florida will only do it if some of the new guys on offense have breakout seasons.


Big key is Richardson. If he comes through I could easily see Florida having a big year.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4393 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 2:37 pm to
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Florida
Would be shocked of they finished in the top 2 of the East. Wouldn't put it past them to beat LSU, but I'm not expecting much from UF this year.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:27 pm to
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Kentucky
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 3:48 pm to
I'm really feelin Kenutcky these days. I think Stoops is a good coach and has an idea what it takes to build a program. He's got some grit, so I know his players respect him and will play hard for him. I personally think Kentucky has a great athletic program overall.
Posted by wareagle4
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:01 pm to
I agree with Kentucky
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49336 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:11 pm to
I feel like the Vols are going to either go 10-2 or implode and go 6-6, no in between
Posted by YankeeHandle
St. Louis
Member since Nov 2014
1344 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 4:59 pm to
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Gators are going to wreck your hopes and dreams.


Agreed, it seems like every first year coach UF gets wins eleven games in their first year no matter how bad the situation looks from the prior year. It's weird.
Posted by gatordmb89
Member since Dec 2009
30461 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 5:50 pm to
Kentucky is the safe pick.

Tennessee has talent on offense and a proven QB.

Florida will surprise if they stay healthy and Richardson can play consistently.
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
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Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:03 pm to
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Agreed, it seems like every first year coach UF gets wins eleven games in their first year no matter how bad the situation looks from the prior year. It's weird.


Shark Fricker took over a team that had a top notch defense but a poorly coached Muschamp offense. However, for the first 6 games that year, Macelwain had Grier as his qb, which Muschamp did not. It would've been interesting to see how Muschamp could've fricked Grier up, but Grier helped Mac get a few big wins early in 2015 against some good teams (Tenn, Ole Miss) that he probably would've lost if Treon was qb instead.

Mac had a mental breakdown, but left some good pieces (Pitts, Toney, Trask), and Mullen had an easy schedule to end 2018 with: Muschamp-coached Gamecocks, Idaho, Taggart coached FSU, and a devastated Michigan team who got embarrassed by Ohio State.

Mullen basically got lucky.
Posted by Peter167
Member since Mar 2020
6104 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 6:10 pm to
Hoping it's Fla behind a strong run game with Richardson stacking crazy highlights week after week. Not thag far fetch the dude is super talented.
Posted by CrabInMyShoeMouth
Member since Jul 2016
2486 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 8:45 pm to
TN.

You’re crazy if you don’t think KY hit their ceiling last season. Regression is a certainty. Would even put FL ahead of KY if it’s relative to the current word of mouth.
Posted by BigMob
Georgia
Member since Oct 2021
7625 posts
Posted on 8/31/22 at 9:27 pm to
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UT seems like the only real choice.


It’s their year, havent you heard ?
This post was edited on 8/31/22 at 9:28 pm
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4306 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 7:00 am to
Quote

“Vanderbilt

Already averaging 63 points a game”

What are the odds that Vandy doesn’t score 63 more points combined over the next 11 games?”

Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 7:03 am to
Here is my "trying not to be a homer" take on all 3 options listed:

Kentucky - Really good coaching and very talented QB. Last year they had a very good offense. They have 5 starters returning from that offense, so their year will totally depend on replacing the OL protection they lost with players like Fortner (C) and Kinnard (OT). Bringing in Auburn transfer Tashawn Manning is a pretty good start...but they still have 2 Redshirt Freshmen likely to start on the left side of the ball. Eli Cox is on the Outland Trophy Watchlist...but we will have to see how his move from Guard to Center goes. As for skill players...(from their projected depth chart), they have 5 Freshmen in their 2 deep rotation at WR (2 True Fr, and 3 RS Fr). Their offensive success could make or brake on the productivity of Virginia Tech transfer Tayvion Robinson. It just seems like there are a lot of changes to adjust to on offense, with a lot of opportunities for things not to mesh.

Florida - The SEC has become a league that leans a lot on high powered offenses. Florida has as much talent as anyone in the East outside of Georgia, but with Napier in his first year and Toney as his OC...I'm wondering how much of the offense Toney will actually call vs Napier. Napier's Louisiana teams made a big jump in year 2 and a giant leap in year 3. A lot depends on how Richardson's ability to run a new offense under this regime. I think they will be good defensively...defenses adapt to new schemes quicker than offense, and I like their coordinators.

Tennessee - Should be very good on offense because they have so much coming back...defense was below average last year and will likely be the determining factor for how good their season goes. As fast as the offense scores, the defense is hung out to dry with TOP...so they need a lot of quality depth. They didn't have it last year, and there hasn't been much talk about any significant changes they've made since then. No team can afford a lot of injuries...UT is even more vulnerable than most on defense, because of how much they will need to rely on rotation to keep players fresh with as many snaps as they are likely to see on the field.


My homer take would be Tennessee...but a true "surprise" would be Florida. Tennessee and Kentucky both are positioned to make moves...but somehow Florida is coming in under the radar. I could see them surprising a lot of people.
Posted by Tiger_Claw
Little Rock, AR
Member since Nov 2013
5141 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 7:20 am to
Any team that doesn't start with M and rhyme with zoo.

Vandy for sure.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
24041 posts
Posted on 9/1/22 at 7:28 am to
Nobody in this thread has come up with the right answer yet.....

Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/1/22 at 3:14 pm to
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Kentucky
Tennessee
Florida



Now looking at the depth charts (ourlads.com) to compare Offensive age (class listed regardless of RS):

Tennessee's offense 2-deep has:
0 Freshmen
5 Sophomores
7 Juniors
9 Seniors
1 Grad

Kentucky's offense 2-deep has (24 listed since they show 2 TE set option):
8 Freshmen
3 Sophomores
4 Juniors
7 Seniors
2 Grad

Florida's offense 2-deep has:
5 Freshmen
3 Sophomores
8 Juniors
6 Seniors


This is one of the reasons that I think Kentucky could struggle offensively this season...especially in Gainesville in week 2.
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