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re: Who wins the Georgia vs LSU game in Athens on September 28 ?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:29 pm to gatorhata9
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:29 pm to gatorhata9
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That's the thing. We haven't seen this group play as a unit yet and they could either be very average or outstanding. We'll know Labor Day weekend.
Well, then that rule also applies for LSU's defense. But I'll go further, LSU returns one more starter, and LSU already played more freshmen than any D in the country last year. We've got a lot of defenders who have played significant time. I'd wager that LSU's D is in a better situation than Georgia's.
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Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:30 pm to DawgsLife
Can I name any georgia defender? Well, starting with the DL, I would expect to see Garrison Smith, Jonathan Taylor and Ray Drew starting. OLBs will likely be Jordan Jenkins, Ramik Wilson. ILB will be Herrera and quite possibly true freshmen Reggie Carter. S will likely be Trey Matthews and possible Corey Moore to start the season although, Josh Harvey Clemons will take over after his 1 game suspension. CBs will Damian Swann and Sheldon Dawson most likely. Does that help? Too bad Freshman Reggie Wilkerson went down with an injury this summer because he was doing really well at CB as well.
STs have been not so great of late, especially punt return which is why I am a bit flummoxed why UGA doesn't just go after the punt every time. They are actually pretty good at that over the years. The punter and kicker were true freshmen last year so they both have a license to improve. However I saw great improvement on kick coverage last year from previous years. Sheldon Dawson and Kostas Vavlos were laying returners out. Vavlos went down with a knee injury later in the year, but hopefully he will be back at some point this year. Not sure on his time frame though. There are also quite a few explosive new athletes in the fold that will have their chance to take over return duties- especially punt returner- I would look forward to someone like JJ Green, Rico Johnson ( if he gets by the clearinghouse) getting looks back there to see how they do.
STs have been not so great of late, especially punt return which is why I am a bit flummoxed why UGA doesn't just go after the punt every time. They are actually pretty good at that over the years. The punter and kicker were true freshmen last year so they both have a license to improve. However I saw great improvement on kick coverage last year from previous years. Sheldon Dawson and Kostas Vavlos were laying returners out. Vavlos went down with a knee injury later in the year, but hopefully he will be back at some point this year. Not sure on his time frame though. There are also quite a few explosive new athletes in the fold that will have their chance to take over return duties- especially punt returner- I would look forward to someone like JJ Green, Rico Johnson ( if he gets by the clearinghouse) getting looks back there to see how they do.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:30 pm to DawgsLife
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I don't see this happening. I don't THINK anyone will hold LSU to 3 YPC. Too much talent in the backfield. I DO, however, believe Georgia will shut Mettenberger down and he will pass for less than 125 yards.
If LSU is running for > 3 ypc, UGA won't get the chance to shut Mett down.
But also consider, only two games last year did Mett throw for under 125 yards, Clemson and A&M. One loss and one win.
Here's Mett's numbers vs BCS teams:
UW 12/18, 195 yds, 1 td - W
AU 15/27, 169 yds - W
UF 11/25, 158 yds, 1 int - L
SC 12/25, 148 yds, 1 int - W
AM 11/29, 97, 1 td - W
UA 24/35, 298 yds, 1 td - L
MS 19/30, 273 yds, 2 tds - W
OM 22/37, 282 yds, 2 ints - W
AR 16/29, 217 yds, 1 td - W
CU 14/23, 120 yds, 1 td, 1 int - L
I think the only conclusion you can draw is that Mett's performance seems to have no bearing on the w/l column. His worst performances seem to be wins, while his best performances seem to be losses - and even that doesn't correlate very well.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:31 pm to SoGaFan
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Can I name any georgia defender?
LOL Georgia fans don't count, man.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:31 pm to TxTiger82
Several other guys got playing time (Harvey-Clemmons) and will step in full time. he got a LOT of playing time last year. We have a true freshman (Tray Matthews) that will be starting for us at Safety. Freshmen get you beat in the SEC, but this kid looks to be truly special. Hey. I'm not arguing that Georgia will have a great defense. I am arguing that last years defense played WAY under their abilities, and that this years won't (Hopefully) be too far below last years. It's the offense that makes Georgia special.
What it all boils down to is this. Will LSU's defense be able to stop Georgia's offense, and will Georgia's defense be enough to slow down the LSU running attack. Personally, I think Georgia will concentrate on stopping the running attack and count on Mettenberger being Mettenberger....well, Mettenberger Lite. If Mettenberger plays well, Georgia will be in trouble. If he plays poorly, it could get ugly.
What it all boils down to is this. Will LSU's defense be able to stop Georgia's offense, and will Georgia's defense be enough to slow down the LSU running attack. Personally, I think Georgia will concentrate on stopping the running attack and count on Mettenberger being Mettenberger....well, Mettenberger Lite. If Mettenberger plays well, Georgia will be in trouble. If he plays poorly, it could get ugly.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:35 pm to DawgsLife
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i MEAN...YOU GUYS did HAVE 6 PLAYERS DRAFTED IN THE FIRST 3 ROUNDS OF THE nfl DRAFT.
2012 NFL Draft:
1st Round, 6th Overall: Morris Claiborne
1st Round, 14th Overall: Michael Brockers
3rd Round: Brandon Taylor
4th Round: Ron Brooks
I'm gonna miss Mingo, Montgomery, and Minter too but that doesn't mean the same coaches that found them haven't found other capable guys.
I think we'll be OK, thanks for the concern tho.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:35 pm to DawgsLife
What me and a bunch of tiger fans are saying is that KeKe, Sonic Sam's and Reid's '12 season wasn't nearly as productive as their '11 season . What those three did in '12 will be eclipsed by what their replacements do in '13.
As for total tackles, ints and passes defended, what do the dawgs return to the team?
As for total tackles, ints and passes defended, what do the dawgs return to the team?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:38 pm to TxTiger82
I wanted to stress that LSU would likely have less trouble running than passing more than what I think of mett. That being said, based all I've seen here and there, I don't think he's good. I think LSU does better when he acts as a game manager and they just run. And UGAs defense, while completely unknown at this point, has shown far more weaknesses defending the run than the pass under CTG. point is, mett could still light up our secondary but there are higher odds he throws an int or fumbles than a ball carrier turning it over and I think the best way to beat Georgia, as evidenced in their recent losses, is wearing down the defense.
Plus, Jordan Jenkins is the fricking truth
Plus, Jordan Jenkins is the fricking truth
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 12:40 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:39 pm to DawgsLife
Well considering the cocks kicked that dawg to the curb last year I would have to say the '12 schedule was probally a little more difficult.
TCU will be better than the huskies but, LSU has all offseason the get ready for season opener in Dallas. Just like '11.
TCU will be better than the huskies but, LSU has all offseason the get ready for season opener in Dallas. Just like '11.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:41 pm to 167back
Didn't read thread but......LSU loses by 17 points
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:42 pm to DawgsLife
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Will LSU's defense be able to stop Georgia's offense
No, but hopefully we'll slow it down enough. The key for LSU is whether we'll be able to generate a pass rush. Georgia won't have much success running. LSU will be stout in the middle of the dline and at linebacker.
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Personally, I think Georgia will concentrate on stopping the running attack
Plenty of teams have tried. Few have succeeded. We'll have a very good oline (better than your front 7), and we'll have a stable of backs, as usual. Hopefully, Jeremy Hill will be back in action by Sept. 28.
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count on Mettenberger being Mettenberger....well, Mettenberger Lite.
I'm just not too sure what this means. Mett doesn't screw up as often as you think. If he has time to throw the football he does very well. He'll have an experienced top 4 at receiver (Landry, Beckham, Boone, Wright) and we add a serious deep threat in Quantavious Leslie (JUCO transfer, tall and faster than anyone in Georgia's secondary).
Plus - and here's what you may not realize - LSU hasn't had a real offensive coordinator in a few years. That situation has been sorted out.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:43 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I think LSU does better when he acts as a game manager and they just run.
Evidence?
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:46 pm to DawgsLife
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So what you were saying is Mingo, Reid, Minter, Montgomery etc really weren't all that good. Check
No, what you seem to be saying is that LSU doesn't have equal talent behind them coming up. Keep in mind that before 2011 everone was saying that LSU lost too much on defense (Petersen CB, Sheppard LB, Nevis DL, Levingston DL all drafted) and there was no way they would be better. The players you mentioned were sophs that year, and the defense was one of the best at LSU.
Who's to say this year's sophs won't be as good (or better) than 2011's sophs? The recruiting classes say they will be.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:46 pm to TxTiger82
Nope, just pulled it out of my arse.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:48 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
Seriously? only TWICE was he held under 125 yards PASSING? How many SEC quarterbacks get held under 125 yards passing? It happens but rarely.
He got held under 200 yards SEVEN times! (Counting Clemson)
And two other games he threw for 228 and 238 yards. hardly someone I would hang a hat on.
In two of the losses LSU suffered last season he threw for 158 and 120 yards. In those losses they lost by 1 and 8 points. You don't think those MIGHT have been wins had he thrown better? Add in the Auburn game in which they BARELY escaped and he threw for 169 yards.
He bulked his numbers up on Idaho, Towson, Miss. State, Ole Miss, and yes, Alabama.
LSU ranked 11 out of 14 in SEC for passing yards per game, and remember...had Mettenberger not bulked his numbers up on Towson and Idaho, etc...it could have been ugly. Real ugly.
He got held under 200 yards SEVEN times! (Counting Clemson)
And two other games he threw for 228 and 238 yards. hardly someone I would hang a hat on.
In two of the losses LSU suffered last season he threw for 158 and 120 yards. In those losses they lost by 1 and 8 points. You don't think those MIGHT have been wins had he thrown better? Add in the Auburn game in which they BARELY escaped and he threw for 169 yards.
He bulked his numbers up on Idaho, Towson, Miss. State, Ole Miss, and yes, Alabama.
LSU ranked 11 out of 14 in SEC for passing yards per game, and remember...had Mettenberger not bulked his numbers up on Towson and Idaho, etc...it could have been ugly. Real ugly.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:49 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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I don't think he's good
imagine that sweet southern drawl when you read this... "hey y'all, that mettenberger kid, i just don't think he's that good is all"
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:50 pm to Damn Good Dawg
Last season Mett threw an int for every 50 pass attpts. Murray threw an int for every 38 pass attpts. Who's more likely to throw an int in our game?
If uga's defense can't stop the run it will be along game for dem dawgs.
If uga's defense can't stop the run it will be along game for dem dawgs.
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:50 pm to madddoggydawg
That'd likely add some reality to it
This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 12:52 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:51 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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Nope, just pulled it out of my arse.
Mett had a rough October. Otherwise, he was fine - good, even. Our problem last year wasn't Mettenberger, it was giving Mettenberger enough time to make plays.
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This post was edited on 7/21/13 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 7/21/13 at 12:53 pm to 167back
Again.....NOBODY is trying to say the Georgia defense will be lights out. It's our offense. 
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