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re: Who will have a better Season? Auburn or Arkansas?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:19 pm to LSUsuperfresh
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:19 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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No! You think Ole Miss will probably finish last in the West. Please?
I doubt it but I don't see them doing much more than they did last season. What do you think?
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Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:21 pm to LSUsuperfresh
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No! You think Ole Miss will probably finish last in the West. Please?
Not this piggie...
I don't think they'll do any worse than last year and perhaps better.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:21 pm to TTsTowel
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How can any true freshman be considered an elite running back without even seeing a football field yet?
Well...Isn't that ya'lls whole theory in that you have better talent? Typically, when a back is labeled the #1 back in the country by one recruiting site, you gotta say he's most likely on the elite level..
You can't have it both ways
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:23 pm to TTsTowel
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How can any true freshman be considered an elite running back without even seeing a football field yet?
The same way Auburn is always "more talented" than Arkansas.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:30 pm to sugatowng
quote:I think we will be better this year due to Auburn not losing anyone of any real importance, outside of Phillip Lutz and Emory Blake. Auburn basically returned all of their starters on offense and defense (outside of Corey Lemonier). And with that, we have an easier schedule, and a major coaching upgrade with players that are already prepared to play in Gus Malzahn's offense AGAIN.
Well...Isn't that ya'lls whole theory in that you have better talent?
quote:Hardly ever are players considered elite college players straight out of high school. Sammy Watkins is one that comes to mind, but there haven't been a whole lot. And what are the odds of Alex Collins becoming an elite running back as a true freshman behind that Arkansas offensive line? t's no secret that they have struggled mightily in the past couple years.
Typically, when a back is labeled the #1 back in the country by one recruiting site, you gotta say he's most likely on the elite level..
Here's my reasoning behind Arkansas not being good this season:
1) Arkansas lost Tyler Wilson, Chris Gragg, Cobi Hamilton, Knile Davis, Dennis Johnson, etc, on offense. Nobody will be better than them at any given position. I don't care what you say. And as bad as Arkansas' offense was last year, they gave it a glimmer of hope. They were the reason you won 4 games.
2) Arkansas is transitioning to a power based rush offense with a pretty bad offensive line, new running backs, no threat at receiver, and a complete unknown at quarterback (the only think we know about Brandon Allen is his name).
3) Arkansas' schedule sucks. It's rough. And it'll be a tough first year under Bret Beilema.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:33 pm to Stonehog
quote:Arkansas has been coached better, without a doubt, since the year 2008 (save 2010, maybe). Even last year.
The same way Auburn is always "more talented" than Arkansas.
Coaching conquers talent any day of the week, and that's all Auburn had going for them (talent). All of that talent consisted of a lack of discipline, lack of toughness, and lack of attention to detail.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:34 pm to TTsTowel
TTsTowel points have been the best I've read in this post. It will be interesting to see the first few games for each team.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:36 pm to TTsTowel
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we have an easier schedule, and a major coaching upgrade with players that are already prepared to play in Gus Malzahn's offense AGAIN.
What about your terrible defensive players? Whose system were those guys recruited for?
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:39 pm to Stonehog
quote:What about Arkansas'?
What about your terrible defensive players?
quote:That's a mystery nobody has been able to solve since 2009.
Whose system were those guys recruited for?
Although, when Ellis Johnson arrived in Auburn, he said that this Auburn defense was more talented than the one at South Carolina when he took that defense over. He also increased that defense's production in the very first year, and turned it around with ease. Auburn has the horses, we just needed a buggy to direct them.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:40 pm to FuddSandersJr
Auburn has more talent but do they have a QB? I know the cat from UGA what's his nuts is very athletic and has a decent arm but I've definitely given Arky the edge at QB for now.
Arky still probably has an average D but Auburn's D last year set records for being awful. Both have some very good running backs but average receivers.
These teams are very even but I'll say Arkansas wins one or two more games than Aubie because of a QB that played pretty well last year backing up Wilson.
Arky still probably has an average D but Auburn's D last year set records for being awful. Both have some very good running backs but average receivers.
These teams are very even but I'll say Arkansas wins one or two more games than Aubie because of a QB that played pretty well last year backing up Wilson.
This post was edited on 8/7/13 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:43 pm to Othello
quote:42.9% completion percentage, 1 touchdown, 3 interceptions...
I'll say Arkansas wins one or two more games than Aubie because of a QB that played pretty well last year backing up Wilson.
Auburn's second quarterback, which later become the starting quarterback, ended with much better stats than that.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:44 pm to TTsTowel
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What about Arkansas'?
I'm just trying to get you to admit that not everything about Auburn is great. You've done nothing but highlight Auburn's positives and Arkansas' negatives.
Newsflash, we've beat you handily two years in a row and the game is in Fayetteville. Malzahn has never won against Arkansas in this state and a fricking Willy Robinson defense beat him 3 times. You're not going to waltz into Fayetteville and win just because Kiehl Frazier was recruited for Malzahn's offense.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:46 pm to Othello
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Auburn has more talent but do they have a QB?
We have 4 quarterbacks right now so the answer to your question is no.
Hell no
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:46 pm to TTsTowel
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Arkansas' schedule sucks. It's rough. And it'll be a tough first year under Bret Beilema.
I agree but it's going to be tough for Auburn as well. Best thing going for both teams is not having John L or Chizik around calling the shots. Auburn will probably finish 6-6. I said Auburn would finish with a better record than Arkansas but after reviewing the schedule, I think we'll both finish 6-6. And Arkansas will probably beat Auburn.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:49 pm to Stonehog
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I'm just trying to get you to admit that not everything about Auburn is great
Who the hell told you that?
If they do it again, kick them in the nuts We are far from great. But from a recruiting standpoint, Auburn has recruited better than Arky over the past few years, hence the reason people are saying we have more "talent"
You are making a big deal out of something you know is true.
Arky has been coached better, other than 2010. But we have had more "raw talent"
If our coaching stacks up a little better this year, which most of us think it will, then you can see why most of us feel like we will be a game or two better than arky.
That and the horrific schedule you have
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:52 pm to Stonehog
quote:Well, ask me about Kiehl Frazier or Jake Holland.
I'm just trying to get you to admit that not everything about Auburn is great.
quote:What did you realistically expect?
You've done nothing but highlight Auburn's positives and Arkansas' negatives.
quote:Congrats, I didn't know that had any bearing on the 2013 season.
we've beat you handily two years in a row
quote:Forgive him.
Malzahn has never won against Arkansas in this state
He took a Auburn team coming off a 5-7 record there and lost in year 1, and a completely rebuilt Auburn team in 2011 and lost. He also kicked your arse in 2010, but nobody likes to acknowledge that.
quote:No, that's where you just go full retard.
fricking Willy Robinson defense beat him 3 times.
Look at how many points that were scored by Arkansas and Auburn in the games from 2009-2011. 44 in 2009, 43 in 2010, and 38 in 2011 by Arkansas. 23 in 2009, 65 in 2010, and 14 in 2011 by Auburn. Gus Malzahn's offense averaged 35 PPG in those 3 years. Bobby Petrino's offense just demolished whatever kind of defense Auburn trotted on the field. THAT is what lost the games, not Willy Robinson owning Gus Malzahn. That's just flat out retarded.
quote:Oh, dear God. If only ANYONE ON THIS WEBSITE had used this for reasoning. You're really reaching.
You're not going to waltz into Fayetteville and win just because Kiehl Frazier was recruited for Malzahn's offense.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:54 pm to sugatowng
Auburnsaw.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:54 pm to Jockamo
I'm not reading this thread.
BUT AUBURN IS BACK AND READY TO KICK SOME arse!!!! Y'all better get ready this year!!!!!!
BUT AUBURN IS BACK AND READY TO KICK SOME arse!!!! Y'all better get ready this year!!!!!!
Posted on 8/7/13 at 6:55 pm to Porky
On Auburn I always have felt Moseley just sucked arse and that Frazier was a bit better but I know several AU fans that felt the other way. And #12 what's his name? Sorry I'm rusty on the names right now because this feels like the longest fricking off-season ever but that #12 is a great runner and showed some touch at time with passing but he's gotta get better in the pocket and quit trying to run all the time.
That cat from UGA that played in juco looks good and I think he'll be the starter and I can see him running Malzhan's offense to a t.
But I like Beilima and since he's old school and defensive minded, I think that will help Arky just enough to where their won't be as much pressure on their offense to put up a lot of points.
That cat from UGA that played in juco looks good and I think he'll be the starter and I can see him running Malzhan's offense to a t.
But I like Beilima and since he's old school and defensive minded, I think that will help Arky just enough to where their won't be as much pressure on their offense to put up a lot of points.
Posted on 8/7/13 at 7:00 pm to Tammy FBaum
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BUT AUBURN IS BACK AND READY TO KICK SOME arse!!!! Y'all better get ready this year!!!!!!
Real Tammy or not, sounds like something she'd say.
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