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Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:47 pm to jdevers
the reason why your theory is not logical is b/c Nutt has already proved 2 things you are overlooking;
1. He can win with his own players and won the west twice with his own players. Therefore, I'd say that means he can recruit.
2. He has proved him can come into Arkansas and get difference maker type players.
Petrino has not proved he can win with his own players. He left Louisville in sad shape. They went from puttin about 4 guys in the NFL draft per year, which is average for an SEC team, to no one now that his recruits are aging.
1. He can win with his own players and won the west twice with his own players. Therefore, I'd say that means he can recruit.
2. He has proved him can come into Arkansas and get difference maker type players.
Petrino has not proved he can win with his own players. He left Louisville in sad shape. They went from puttin about 4 guys in the NFL draft per year, which is average for an SEC team, to no one now that his recruits are aging.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:48 pm to RMFTBama
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You're a smart one, aren't you? If you knew anything about football, you'd know that Alabama has never had a hard time recruiting. How would we have gone 12-2 last year when Saban had one "full" recruiting class if we had not been talented before hand?
The reason Alabama "turned it around" is because we finally have a competent head coach. Auburn will do better than it did last year in the future, but Auburn cannot compete for recruits on Alabama and LSU's level. You'll get some big players here and there, but you never have been a recruiting powerhouse, and you never will be. That's not Alabama fans being"hypocritical" or even insulting; that's just the historical fact of the matter.
This year's recruiting class disagrees with you.
Also, if we're so terrible at acquiring talent, why is Auburn leading the series the past 30 years and why has Auburn led the series every era outside of the Bryant era?
It seems clear that you guys only do well when we are down and only when you have a coach that bends the rules.
/waiting on apology/
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:58 pm to wildrebeltime
when you leave 20 of 22 starters on an Orange bowl winning team thats in bad shape?
Posted on 11/22/09 at 4:58 pm to nativetiger
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This year's recruiting class disagrees with you.
Also, if we're so terrible at acquiring talent, why is Auburn leading the series the past 30 years and why has Auburn led the series every era outside of the Bryant era?
It seems clear that you guys only do well when we are down and only when you have a coach that bends the rules.
/waiting on apology/
We've had two straight top-ranked recruiting classes and are ranked #2 this year. So, basically, we're having our worst recruiting class in 3 years and are still 6 spots ahead of Auburn. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Auburn is capable of landing a top-10 class every 2 or 3 years. They are not capable of doing it on a consistent basis. This year's in-state recruiting class favored Auburn more than any in recent memory; next year's class already looks to return to the normal trend of heavily leaning in Alabama's favor.
Hate to break it to you, but Auburn is not going to win a national title any time soon. You can continue playing for Iron Bowl victories, as those clearly mean more to Auburn anyway.
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It seems clear that you guys only do well when we are down and only when you have a coach that bends the rules.
And this is stupid and laughable. Alabama is the reason Auburn is down right now; Tuberville couldn't recruit worth a damn, so it was only a matter of time until Auburn started to fall under him. You are reaping the rewards of his laziness right now--and you'll really see how glaring those deficiencies are this Friday.
Also, how has Saban been "bending the rules?" The texbook and fishing "scandals?" Yeah, because those definitely gave us a competitive advantage. Perhaps we should just give our players free "A"s in sociology a la Auburn.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 5:10 pm to blackrose890
yea b/c who's starting the following year does not take into consideration the year 3 situation of which Louisville has 3 of his 06 class starting which is the lowest number in the NCAA.
Probabaly just alot of juco's, flunk outs, prop 48, and character risks.
Poor recruiter
Probabaly just alot of juco's, flunk outs, prop 48, and character risks.
Poor recruiter
Posted on 11/22/09 at 5:19 pm to wildrebeltime
So what does that say about Nutt's skill players then? I believe that there were several character risk there, quite a few flunk out and a great many Juco's that never panned out. Is he too a poor recruiter?
I just noticed the probably in your response, so this edit comes in late, how much attention have you paid to Louisville situatation?
I just noticed the probably in your response, so this edit comes in late, how much attention have you paid to Louisville situatation?
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 5:20 pm to RMFTBama
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We've had two straight top-ranked recruiting classes and are ranked #2 this year. So, basically, we're having our worst recruiting class in 3 years and are still 6 spots ahead of Auburn. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Auburn is capable of landing a top-10 class every 2 or 3 years. They are not capable of doing it on a consistent basis. This year's in-state recruiting class favored Auburn more than any in recent memory; next year's class already looks to return to the normal trend of heavily leaning in Alabama's favor.
Hate to break it to you, but Auburn is not going to win a national title any time soon. You can continue playing for Iron Bowl victories, as those clearly mean more to Auburn anyway.
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It seems clear that you guys only do well when we are down and only when you have a coach that bends the rules.
And this is stupid and laughable. Alabama is the reason Auburn is down right now; Tuberville couldn't recruit worth a damn, so it was only a matter of time until Auburn started to fall under him. You are reaping the rewards of his laziness right now--and you'll really see how glaring those deficiencies are this Friday.
Also, how has Saban been "bending the rules?" The texbook and fishing "scandals?" Yeah, because those definitely gave us a competitive advantage. Perhaps we should just give our players free "A"s in sociology a la Auburn.
1. Recruiting season isn't over. It ends in February. But I'll remind you that Saban has had a three year head start on these recruits over our current staff, yet we'll still probably pull in a top 5 class with guys saban would sign in a heartbeat. I hope you guys continue to ignore what's happening instead of worrying with us like usual.
2. Auburn is the reason Auburn is down right now. It's got nothing to do with bammer. Tuberville quit, bammer didn't stop him.
3. The sociology stuff was all ado about nothing. Those classes were open to all students. Were they easy? Yes. Does every college have easy classes? Yes. For instance, Alabama has a whole University full of easy classes. That is why anybody with a pulse is able to get in there while kids get turned away from Auburn.
As for the national title talk, Auburn has done everything necessary to win titles. Maybe they'll come, maybe not. In a system where titles are won in the newspaper rather than on the field, you can never tell. This is why Spurrier always said he focused on the conference instead of national titles......
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:07 pm to nativetiger
Tuberville was fired, he didn't quit. We aren't worried about y'all and your recruiting... we aren't denying it either.
no offense, but if we took a poll on TD.com and asked everyone whose fanbase this quote MOST sounds like, it would be Auburn.
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. In a system where titles are won in the newspaper rather than on the field
no offense, but if we took a poll on TD.com and asked everyone whose fanbase this quote MOST sounds like, it would be Auburn.
This post was edited on 11/22/09 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:23 pm to m2pro
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Considering last season's disaster and this season's lack of shine... and considering how the majority of LSU fans here are reacting....
Who is going to step up and be Bama's competition for SEC west? Auburn? Arkansas? Ole Miss? LSU?
I'd say each school has a very valid argument as to why THEY'LL be competing with us.
My prediction, Arkansas.
Seriously. Yeah, you guys totally blew us away. It's not like you won two close games with questionable officiating and significant injuries to our squad. I guess you guys sucked arse for so long that it's refreshing to talk crap about LSU after a couple of good years, huh.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:25 pm to nativetiger
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That is why anybody with a pulse is able to get in there while kids get turned away from Auburn.
I guess that's why Alabama's acceptance rate is 60% and Auburn's is 71%. Excellent job of completely fabricating the truth. As Lou Holtz (trying to use someone on your intelligence level) says, "You're entitled to your own opinion. You aren't entitled to your own facts."
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:29 pm to nativetiger
stop sayin auburn. Everybody says lsu has a moron for a coach.( i agree) but that moron curbstomped auburn.
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:32 pm to PRIDGENTIGER
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stop sayin auburn. Everybody says lsu has a moron for a coach.( i agree) but that moron cubstomped auburn.
Talent matters. Saban lost to LaMo his first year at bammer.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:33 pm to RMFTBama
Hay Barners, prepare to take you whuppin' 
Auburn can't recruit at the elite level with a healthy Bama. Facts are facts.
Auburn can't recruit at the elite level with a healthy Bama. Facts are facts.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:33 pm to m2pro
I say LSU and Arky, with AU in the mix based on their recent recruiting. OM and Nutt will only play spoiler.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:35 pm to m2pro
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Tuberville was fired, he didn't quit. We aren't worried about y'all and your recruiting... we aren't denying it either.
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. In a system where titles are won in the newspaper rather than on the field
no offense, but if we took a poll on TD.com and asked everyone whose fanbase this quote MOST sounds like, it would be Auburn.
1. Tuberville quit right after the 2004 post-season.
2. I hope you're not worried about Auburn's recruiting. That's good for us.
3. That quote probably sounds like Auburn because nobody else has been hosed as badly as we have by the current system. Nothing like getting raped by a system to provide perspective on exactly what is happening. Even though you guys are in love with the BCS, it's all bullshite until they institute a playoff....
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:37 pm to SabanIsAGod
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Hay Barners, prepare to take you whuppin'
Auburn can't recruit at the elite level with a healthy Bama. Facts are facts.
Then why the hell haven't you guys opened up a bigger lead on us than 6 or 7 games? And why do we lead the series post-Bryant and pre-Bryant? You guys must not be as smart as we are, because we can compete with you while you all have NFL talent.....
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:37 pm to nativetiger
The BCS did Auburn a favor in 2004 by not allowing you to play USC.
Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:39 pm to nativetiger
and you have no talent. You have walkons starting. 1 top 10 recruiting class isnt gonna put you on bama or lsu level. Sorry. Ur atleast 2 or 3 yrs away
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Posted on 11/22/09 at 6:39 pm to nativetiger
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And why do we lead the series post-Bryant and pre-Bryant?
Stop living in the past. It's sad that you measure your success in Iron Bowl victories (which we have more of, by the way). We have more national championships pre-Bryant AND post-Bryant.
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