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re: Who the hell did Kirby sell his soul to?
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:12 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:12 pm to deeprig9
quote:Well, O has only coached 1 year
Next year let’s compare O’s first two years to Les Miles’ first two years. Let’s see if you remain consistent in your opinion.
With a win we will be 10-3 and around 10-12 in the country
Les Miles finished 11-2 and #5 in the country
Les had a better first year absolutely.
Now I will say the team Les walked into was the best LSU team ever on paper IMHO. He got dealt a bad hand with Katrina and Rita though
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 1:13 pm
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Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
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Maybe, UGA did have the #3 ranked class in 2002 though
Not just talking rankings. That class had 2 five star players, this one has 6 so far and could include another 2.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:12 pm to lsupride87
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But any objective fan from another team, will say 13-1 #3 ranked SEC and Sugar bowl champs are better that 12-2 #4or5 ranked SEC champs and rose bowl losers
Any objective person, fan or not, would conclude otherwise because they would take in the objective factors wg posted into account, which you don't seem to be doing.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 1:14 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:13 pm to lsupride87
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in regards to recruiting, Richt was never quite this good
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Maybe, UGA did have the #3 ranked class in 2002 though
And it was the only top 3 class richt had. Kirby already has a #3 class and followed that up with one of the best recruiting classes in recorded history.
Kirby is a far better recruiter than richt and that's not debatable.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:13 pm to djsdawg
quote:I would rather my team finish 13-1 and #3 in the country then 12-2 and #4 in the country
Any objective person, fan or not, would conclude otherwise because they would take in the objective factors wg into account, which you don't seem to be doing.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:15 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I would say better. Far better seems like a stretch.
Kirby is a far better recruiter than richt and that's not debatable.
If Kirby follows next year up with another SEC title this thread would be warranted. If he doesnt, this thread is extremely premature based on what we saw from the previous UGA coach.
That really isnt that outlandish of a statement.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
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I would rather my team finish 13-1 and #3 in the country then 12-2 and #4 in the country
and once again you're now talking about whihc season accomplished more, not which coach "did better".
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:15 pm to lsupride87
That’s why I said “next year” you dumb motherfricker.
So we could do apples to apples.
So we could do apples to apples.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:16 pm to lsupride87
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I would rather my team finish 13-1 and #3 in the country then 12-2 and #4 in the country
I’d rather my team have a chance to finish #1, something Richt didn’t have when TE dropped that pass in Jax in 2002.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:17 pm to deeprig9
quote:And next year we will.
That’s why I said “next year” you dumb motherfricker.
So we could do apples to apples.
I gave you the 1 year as we are here
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:18 pm to lsupride87
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I would say better. Far better seems like a stretch.
Do you think saban was a far better recruiter than richt? Because that's about how wide the playing field is currently with kirby. Richt was a ~10th ranked class overall and 3rd or 4th in the sec kinda guy. Kirby is a top 3 nationally kinda guy. That's a wide gap.
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If Kirby follows next year up with another SEC title this thread would be warranted. If he doesnt, this thread is extremely premature
early in the thread I pointed out that kirby isn't doing much differently than richt did in year 2. I'm not aruging that and I dind't start the thread.
But it's obvious to me that kirby is setting us up for future success MUCH better than richt did early on, primarily as it relates to OL recruiting. Richt was great at getting skill guys, and lousy at recruiting lineman. Same can't be said for kirby.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:18 pm to Dawgfanman
quote:Well, if Richt had the current rules in place he would have had that opportunity in 2002 and 2007
I’d rather my team have a chance to finish #1
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:18 pm to lsupride87
But what you want as a fan isn't necessarily objective.
You wouldn't understand the disappointment of getting stuck with a shite bowl opponent after a 12-1 season. Y'all almost came close to feeing that feeling in 2007, but of course uga slid in that same disappointing spot yet again.
You wouldn't understand the disappointment of getting stuck with a shite bowl opponent after a 12-1 season. Y'all almost came close to feeing that feeling in 2007, but of course uga slid in that same disappointing spot yet again.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:19 pm to lsupride87
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and 2007
Maybe, maybe not. As a fan, yes, but objectively? No.
This post was edited on 12/27/17 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:20 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:I have just seen over my years how sustaining success seems so much more difficult than getting to the success.
But it's obvious to me that kirby is setting us up for future success MUCH better than richt did early on, primarily as it relates to OL recruiting. Richt was great at getting skill guys, and lousy at recruiting lineman. Same can't be said for kirby.
Kirby seems to have all the pieces in place, but I have been burned by thinking that of many past coaches
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:21 pm to lsupride87
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Well, if Richt had the current rules in place he would have had that opportunity in 2002 and 2007
2002 for sure. 2007, maybe.
Richt did great his first 6 years at UGA. He had moments during his last 9. But straight up, he never had a recruiting class with this many highly rated guys. For that matter he never had one as good as last years. He was fairly lazy. We signed 2 5 star OL his entire 15 years, we signed that many this year and another last year (and like 6 4 star)
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
Right, notice I said "setting us up for", not that he is going to stay at this level forever.
Even when we had superior QB/WR/RBs come through, we ultimatley failed to win more becuase our OL was thin and not hugely talented, and the DL was hit or miss. The OL is going ot be talented and deep for years to come, and Kirby seems to know what he's doing on defense.
Even when we had superior QB/WR/RBs come through, we ultimatley failed to win more becuase our OL was thin and not hugely talented, and the DL was hit or miss. The OL is going ot be talented and deep for years to come, and Kirby seems to know what he's doing on defense.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:22 pm to djsdawg
quote:There was no playoff committee back then, so it is impossible to tell.
Maybe, maybe not. As a fan, yes, but objectively? No.
The 3-4th playoff spot would have been a dogfight between tech, oklahoma, and UGA
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:22 pm to lsupride87
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I have just seen over my years how sustaining success seems so much more difficult than getting to the success
Now his is very true. Richt never recovered from the loss of Van Gorder, Calloway, and a few others.
Posted on 12/27/17 at 1:23 pm to Dawgfanman
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We signed 2 5 star OL his entire 15 years
Theus and Max jean gillis?
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