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re: Whitlock: Saban is doing this for recruiting and cancel-proofing himself, he's a coward

Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:00 am to
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:00 am to
Meh. Most of us would’ve done the same thing in his position. I attend Church of the Highlands and our pastor came under fire last year just for liking a Charlie Kirk tweet. There are 0 working openly republican actors. Saban’s best friend is Joe Manchin(a bluedog Democrat) even he is under fire for his conservative views. You are not allowed to be a public figure and have conservative views in today’s world.
I own a small business in Alabama and if I started publicly liking/retweeting Ben Shapiro or Michael Knowles tweets I would 100% lose some customers.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20763 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:02 am to
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Kind of hard to do that when you have killing a kid on your record.


Two months ago, LSU fans were making the same jokes about Kelly. Now it’s a bunch of pearl clutching.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65084 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:05 am to
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Meh.. doing it in the 11th hour is a bitch move.


He could have done it in the first hour and it wouldn't have made a difference. Manchin wasn't changing his position.

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He sucks. frick him.


You're an Auburn fan. You'd hate the man no matter what.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64621 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:05 am to
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Saban’s best friend is Joe Manchin



No. If Manchin was his “best friend” Saban wouldn’t have written a letter to him a d let everyone know about it. He would have called him and told no one about it. Political acquaintances would be a more apt description.

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I own a small business in Alabama and if I started publicly liking/retweeting Ben Shapiro or Michael Knowles tweets I would 100% lose some customers.

Would you lose business saying nothing? Didn’t think so
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:07 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:10 am to
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but I seriously doubt what you described is his regular mode of worship.


When did I say it was his "regular mode of worship?" It is his place of worship when he's up in June and July.

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Saban’s a Catholic


And? The church christian non denominational and a lot more convenient for him to attend.


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I’ll simply note that Vince Lombardi and Dean Smith off the field and court and politically were both very liberal Democrats


There's zero chance that a Vince Lombardi Democrat fits in today's party and while a Democrat he wasn't CLOSE to being "very liberal" and Smith was a liberal but I would say he was the exception and not the rule and he was more open about his politics than Saban.

This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:15 am
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4311 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:15 am to
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You are not allowed to be a public figure and have conservative views in today’s world. I own a small business in Alabama and if I started publicly liking/retweeting Ben Shapiro or Michael Knowles tweets I would 100% lose some customers.

I think it’s best for people whose livelihood depend on good favor with the public to stay out of controversial issues like politics, as it seems you do.

I also live in Alabama and my experience is the opposite of yours. If I were an outspoken Biden supporter (although I’m not a Biden supporter at all) and Trump critic (I quietly am) it would be problematic. And that’s not even getting into being an outspoken atheist (I quietly am).
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
1767 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:19 am to
Read up on Lombardi’s economic views. He was a New Dealer down to the DNA in his bone marrow and made no secret of his close ties with folks like RFK.

Was he a 2022 progressive? Different debate.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:20 am to
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Would you lose business saying nothing? Didn’t think so


My business? No. If a majority of the people I was selling to watched MSNBC every night I would have no choice but to back it publicly even if I oppose it privately.

We have no idea how many recruit’s houses Saban has been in where he’s been asked about this bill.

Again, my pastor had to publicly apologize and the city of Birmingham schools stopped letting us pay them to uses the schools for a satellite campus just because he like a Charlie Kirk tweet 12 months before hand. The tweet was just a generic Republican tweet and has nothing to do with BLM but since Kirk is anti BLM the media came after him hard and he had to apologize basically for being a conservative. Public figures are not allowed to hold conservative views anymore.
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:23 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:26 am to
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Read up on Lombardi’s economic views. He was a New Dealer down to the DNA in his bone


And? Most of the South back then felt the same.It was a democratic stronghold back then.

BTW did you read my link? He was very much a social conservative.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:27 am to
I think it’s also possible this was put in front of Saban and he signed it without reading it. If an employee he trusted told him it was to help Manchin(and didn’t tell him it was a hit piece on Manchin), and that other prominent West Virginia figures like Oliver Luck has already signed it I could see him signing without reading it.
It’s not like he can now come out and say I signed it without reading it. He would be crucified by the media. Hell if it got out that he was asked to sign it an refuses he’s be crucified too.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64621 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:27 am to
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No. If a majority of the people I was selling to watched MSNBC every night

So that doesn’t apply to Saban

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Again, my pastor had to publicly apologize and the city of Birmingham schools stopped letting us pay them to uses the schools for a satellite campus just because he like a Charlie Kirk tweet 12 months before hand.

Right, and had your pastor not tweeted anything, he wouldn’t be apologizing for anything. That’s the point.

Saban should know by now who butters his bread, and it’s not progressive Democrats
This post was edited on 1/20/22 at 8:29 am
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:31 am to
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And? Most of the South back then felt the same.It was a democratic stronghold back then.


For some reason people have a hard time understanding the difference between an old school blue dog Democratic, corporate Democrats and socialist Democrats. Most blue dogs were just Democrats because the Republican Party stupidly opposed unions(and still does) If the Republican Party would get on the right side of unions Manchin could come to the party he actually leans toward.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:34 am to
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Right, and had your pastor not tweeted anything, he wouldn’t be apologizing for anything. That’s the point.


He didn’t tweet anything. He simply liked tweets. Conservative aren’t even allowed to do that anymore. I don’t like any tweets or Facebook post that are political. I don’t have that right as right leaning person.

LINK
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:36 am to
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Saban should know by now who butters his bread, and it’s not progressive Democrats



The only thing the butters his bread is winning and playing for NC's

Nothing else trumps this for Bama fans or probably any other fan base
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:36 am to
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Saban should know by now who butters his bread, and it’s not progressive Democrats


A lot of his recruits families watch Joy Reid, man. Alabama fans aren’t going to stop buying tickets and t-shirts because of this. Recruits families will refused to let their kids come to his school if he refused to sign and it was spun by the media.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:39 am to
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No. If a majority of the people I was selling to watched MSNBC every night

So that doesn’t apply to Saban



Yes it does. Saban isn’t selling to me. I was Bama before he got here. He’s selling to recruits and recruits families.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64621 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:49 am to
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He didn’t tweet anything. He simply liked tweets.

Are you being intentionally obtuse at this point?
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4311 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:49 am to
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The only thing the butters his bread is winning and playing for NC's

Nothing else trumps this for Bama fans or probably any other fan base

Agree with this. I think Saban could hold almost any political position and be okay as long as he’s recruiting and winning at a high level.

When you have an important job and you’re irreplaceable, you can do just about anything you want.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64621 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:50 am to
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The only thing the butters his bread is winning and playing for NC's

And he can do all of that staying out of the political arena
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64621 posts
Posted on 1/20/22 at 8:50 am to
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Recruits families will refused to let their kids come to his school if he refused to sign and it was spun by the media.

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