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re: Which SEC fanbases know and accept their programs place in the conference?

Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:45 pm to
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:45 pm to
So, you're talking all time and not current state of each program.




ETA: Talking about a bunch of shite, that no one cares about, from 50 years ago is so aTm it's not even funny.

This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 1:49 pm
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

So, you're talking all time and not current state of each program.



Well yeah. What other metric would I use that would be consistent? How badly we all lost to Ole Miss last year?

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
reading comprehension is your friend

Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

How badly we all lost to Ole Miss last year?


Speak for yourself
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 1:51 pm to
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Well yeah. What other metric would I use that would be consistent? How badly we all lost to Ole Miss last year?


Talking about consistency, aTm fans on here love to use the last four years to compare programs. Why not this time?

Oh wait, I already know why. Carry on.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:01 pm to
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Talking about consistency, aTm fans on here love to use the last four years to compare programs. Why not this time?


Sure, let's use the last four years:

Bama: 3 national titles

LSU: 0 national titles

A&M: 0 national titles

Gap between Bama and LSU still bigger than gap between LSU and A&M

Wait wait, you say. What about the results of games?1!

Bama: 50 wins in the last four years

LSU: 37 wins

A&M: 36 wins

So in the last four years there is a MASSIVE frickING GAP between Bama and LSU while a small one between LSU and A&M

Or here is a fun one:

Bama: 1 Heisman

LSU: 0 Heisman

A&M: 1 Heisman

I don't know what you were thinking honestly, the four year span is worse than all-time.

But you did do a great job proving my point about the level of LSU fan delusion, thank you for that.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:05 pm to
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But you did do a great job proving my point about the level of LSU fan delusion, thank you for that.




It's funny you're using everything except the actual results between the teams, including individual honors, to try and make a point.

Why is that? Because the actual results say the gap between LSU and Bama is just about equal to the one between aTm and LSU.

If that makes you feel better about losing 5 in a row to LSU, good for you.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:07 pm to
cardboard just blew your doors off baw.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:10 pm to
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cardboard just blew your doors off baw.


Sure, if everything other than direct results between the teams determines who's "closer" to who.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:11 pm to
Right. Because determining that all hinges on one single game. Not full seasons or all time.

Posted by NFLSU
Screwston, Texas
Member since Oct 2014
19327 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:12 pm to
We've witnessed 2 national championship games in football the last 10 years, 3 in the last 15. These mouth breathers haven't witnessed a single national championship game, far less a win, in their entire lifetime.

Let them spin.
Posted by AlexLSU
Member since Jan 2005
25341 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:13 pm to
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Not fair, we are more realistic than LSU fans are.


Well, life isn't fair. Is it fair that LSU stomps a hole in A&M ever year, steals your state's top recruits, then mocks your fans incessantly about it online? No, it's not fair, but it is funny.

quote:

The real gap between Bama and LSU is larger than the gap between LSU and A&M


I'm not really sure what this means, and more importantly, I'm not sure how it's relevant.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:24 pm to
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Let them spin


I had a feeling I knew where he was going, and I was right. They've gotten predictable with their schtick. They need some new posters.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:24 pm to
UTk rejoices in their role as offseason champions.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89827 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:26 pm to
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Does not - Georgia,


how so?

Most of our fans recognize us for exactly what we are; a top 12/13ish program of all time, a program on par historically with LSu/UF/AU in teh SEC (below bama and ut), and a team that realistically shoudl probably have accomplished more than we have.

Is that inaccurate?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

It's funny you're using everything except the actual results between the teams, including individual honors, to try and make a point.

Why is that?


Because I don't know how you would "use" the individual results of games between two sets of teams. If anything such numbers would be less accurate than what I have posted.

quote:

Because the actual results say the gap between LSU and Bama is just about equal to the one between aTm and LSU.


bullshite. Lets do it for fun though to prove my point:

LSU wins vs Bama the last four years: 0

A&M wins vs Bama the last four years: 1

You see? If I go by just the results of the games then it looks like A&M has a smaller gap to Bama than LSU does which we all know is false.

I honestly don't even know what other metric you are considering that paints LSU in a better light.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31787 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:31 pm to
I would think that in order to measure a program's place within its conference, one would look at the W-L results of an entire season.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34914 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:32 pm to
quote:

Well, life isn't fair.


I wasn't talking about life I was talking about your post.

quote:


I'm not really sure what this means


In laymen's terms then:

LSU fans think their program is close to Bama

A&M fans think their program is close to LSU

In reality, LSU fans are more wrong about what they think than A&M fans.

Easy enough to understand?

quote:

I'm not sure how it's relevant.


Accepting "your place" means in relation to other programs. By definition.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:37 pm to
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You see? If I go by just the results of the games then it looks like A&M has a smaller gap to Bama than LSU does which we all know is false.


Why would you use the transitive property for LSU-aTm? That makes almost no sense.

Here's why the gap is almost identical:

LSU vs. Bama: 0-5
LSU vs. aTm: 5-0

Average margin of victory for Bama: 13.4
Average margin of victory for LSU: 12.8


If you want to go from 2012, the margin of victory is even closer. 11.5 for Bama and 11.8 for LSU.

Like I said, you can keep using everything except the actual results to compare the gaps between the teams if it makes you feel better about aTm being 0-5. That won't change the fact that on the field, it's almost identical for each.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51696 posts
Posted on 8/22/16 at 2:38 pm to
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I would think that in order to measure a program's place within its conference, one would look at the W-L results of an entire season.


How would you measure the difference between LSU-Bama and the difference between LSU-aTm though? If you don't say the results of the games between each, you're lying.

That's what we're actually discussing here.
This post was edited on 8/22/16 at 2:40 pm
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