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re: Which football program will be better the next 25 years: Texas A&M or Arkansas?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:37 pm to cas4t
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:37 pm to cas4t
Your logic is that aggy will now get Texas' recruiting classes because they now have all the edge in recruiting over Texas.
There is two flaws in this logic, one is that every kid grows up in Texas wants to be an aggy and not a Longhorn.
The other is their best players chose the aggys over the Longhorns.
Neither one is true, had Texas offered Manziel as a QB and not a safety, he'd be sitting the bench at Texas right now.
Playing in the SEC might matter to some recruits, just as playing at LSU, Arkansas, Oklahoma, OSU, etc might be the difference to Texas kids who didn't get a Texas offer.
There is two flaws in this logic, one is that every kid grows up in Texas wants to be an aggy and not a Longhorn.
The other is their best players chose the aggys over the Longhorns.
Neither one is true, had Texas offered Manziel as a QB and not a safety, he'd be sitting the bench at Texas right now.
Playing in the SEC might matter to some recruits, just as playing at LSU, Arkansas, Oklahoma, OSU, etc might be the difference to Texas kids who didn't get a Texas offer.
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Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:38 pm to piggilicious
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What do you consider 'matter'ing, sir- going to the cotton bowl?
I guess, we went there last year and beat the Texas state champ K-State.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:39 pm to DaleDenton
You're completely discounting the fact that they've been in the SEC for one year.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:43 pm to DaleDenton
RSJ and Hoza Scott say you are wrong.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:46 pm to cardboardboxer
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RSJ and Hoza Scott say you are wrong.
Wow, two whole examples.
I'm impressed.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:50 pm to DaleDenton
Thomas Johnson. Josh Walker. Brandon Alexander.
Wait, what I am doing? Arky fans don't know Jack about recruiting. Like talking to a wall.
Good sail.
Wait, what I am doing? Arky fans don't know Jack about recruiting. Like talking to a wall.
Good sail.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 5:57 pm to DaleDenton
Justin Manning
Josh Walker
Nick Harvey
Josh Walker
Nick Harvey
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:02 pm to DaleDenton
which is why a good number of our recruits also had tu offers right?
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:06 pm to Gladius Veritas
AR vs A&M history in a nutshell & my prediction...
3-1 - A&M first 4 games ever. We are dominating.
AR runs a 6-0-1 record next 7 games. AR dominance.
A&M runs 6-0 record. A&M dominance.
7-5-2 run for AR ensues next 14 games.
AR runs off a 12-1 run, includes 9 in a row. AR dominance.
A&M enjoys a short 4-2 record.
Another 6-0 Arky run. AR dominance.
Last 13 games - 7-6 AR.
41-25-3 AR overall
We get a run of 9+ in a row it will be a banner run in the series. 20-5 next 25 is tough. I say 8-2 next 10 games. Maybe 5 in a row for us in this run. Stamp.
Oh yeah...
3-1 - A&M first 4 games ever. We are dominating.
AR runs a 6-0-1 record next 7 games. AR dominance.
A&M runs 6-0 record. A&M dominance.
7-5-2 run for AR ensues next 14 games.
AR runs off a 12-1 run, includes 9 in a row. AR dominance.
A&M enjoys a short 4-2 record.
Another 6-0 Arky run. AR dominance.
Last 13 games - 7-6 AR.
41-25-3 AR overall
We get a run of 9+ in a row it will be a banner run in the series. 20-5 next 25 is tough. I say 8-2 next 10 games. Maybe 5 in a row for us in this run. Stamp.
Oh yeah...
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:07 pm to WestCoastAg
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which is why a good number of our recruits also had tu offers right?
Commit-able?
Or Manziel you are not good enough to play QB, maybe you could be a safety well offer you on athletism type offers?
Or you are a plan c back up plan type offer?
Or my best offer is aggy, but I wish I had a The University of Texas offer, so I will tell Rivals/Scout/24-7 that I did offer?
How will we ever know.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:07 pm to cardboardboxer
Aggy and Arkansas have a long history together; we know each other well. We are roughly equivalent programs historically.
Sumlin has had a great year this year; last year, his Houston team lost to, who was it? Southern Miss???? I remember thinking wtf? Yet he did well this year and is recruiting well.
You can't judge BB on the TCU game either. And I can assure you that Barry Alvarez cast an enormous shadow over the Wisconsin program. Their recruiting budget sucked; their asst coaches salaries sucked, and BB couldn't wait to get away and out on his own. My source on this is BB's first cousin, who I know very well. I think BB has a chance to do very well; none of us know for sure. But on paper he looks to be a better hire than Sumlin was last yr. So I'm optimistic.
I truly like TAMU and my many Aggie friends.I was happy they did well this year.
Having said that, I feel that the Aggie fans(and many of the Aggie posters here,) are tremendously obnoxious when they win. This is a trait that they share with us Hog fans, and the LSU fans as well. Maybe this stems from some kind of over-compensation-from-inferiority-complex BS; I don't know. But it is there. I just don' see this as much from other fan bases in the SEC.
As for the question at hand, I believe we will experience about the same level of success over the next 25 years. It has been that way for the modern fb era. No reason that it will change.
Sumlin has had a great year this year; last year, his Houston team lost to, who was it? Southern Miss???? I remember thinking wtf? Yet he did well this year and is recruiting well.
You can't judge BB on the TCU game either. And I can assure you that Barry Alvarez cast an enormous shadow over the Wisconsin program. Their recruiting budget sucked; their asst coaches salaries sucked, and BB couldn't wait to get away and out on his own. My source on this is BB's first cousin, who I know very well. I think BB has a chance to do very well; none of us know for sure. But on paper he looks to be a better hire than Sumlin was last yr. So I'm optimistic.
I truly like TAMU and my many Aggie friends.I was happy they did well this year.
Having said that, I feel that the Aggie fans(and many of the Aggie posters here,) are tremendously obnoxious when they win. This is a trait that they share with us Hog fans, and the LSU fans as well. Maybe this stems from some kind of over-compensation-from-inferiority-complex BS; I don't know. But it is there. I just don' see this as much from other fan bases in the SEC.
As for the question at hand, I believe we will experience about the same level of success over the next 25 years. It has been that way for the modern fb era. No reason that it will change.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:11 pm to fishwhistler
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AR vs A&M history in a nutshell
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AR dominance
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my prediction
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AR dominance
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:13 pm to DaleDenton
How will we know Dale? Its not like there isn't multiple competing websites to verify the info.
Apparently recruiting is a fricking mystery if you an Arky fan. I too would never visit Scout or Rivals if A&M's recruiting class was EVER as bad as Arkys is now.
Apparently recruiting is a fricking mystery if you an Arky fan. I too would never visit Scout or Rivals if A&M's recruiting class was EVER as bad as Arkys is now.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:14 pm to cardboardboxer
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I too would never visit Scout or Rivals
There is your problem. 247 > all
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:18 pm to Arkansasrazorback
the past. In the past. Like reciting overall record after a blowout. Irrelevant.
A new run in the series has just started.
A new run in the series has just started.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:20 pm to 870Hog
I like 247 too. A&M with a top ten class and Arky with a class that is 5 times worse and would bring great shame to College Station.
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:25 pm to fishwhistler
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A new run in the series has just started.
Lol. Calm down son. You beat Johnelle Smith. Mississippi State kicked our arse too, doesn't mean anything going forward.
This post was edited on 12/28/12 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:43 pm to cas4t
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You're completely discounting the fact that they've been in the SEC for one year.
The sun shines on a dogs azz sometimes
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:54 pm to Arkansasrazorback
So us beating you is no big deal, but you beating Auburn last year gives you the right to look down on them.
Sounds like some Arky Heisman Logic.
AHL rules apply here boys!!!!!!
Sounds like some Arky Heisman Logic.
AHL rules apply here boys!!!!!!
Posted on 12/28/12 at 6:57 pm to cardboardboxer
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So us beating you is no big deal, but you beating Auburn last year gives you the right to look down on them.
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