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re: Where does JFF rank in the top SEC QB's the last 5 years?
Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:56 pm to KaiserSoze99
Is this a JFF vs Cam thread?
Cam is better.
Cam is better.
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Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:57 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Negative. A&M lost two games because:
a) Cam > JFF
b) Gus >>>>> Sumlin
I actually have MORE unrustled jimmies now than prior to reading this.
That's tough to do. Bravo sir.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:58 pm to Hogwall Jackson
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Is this a JFF vs Cam thread?
Cam is better.
That's two Arkies trying to rustle jimmies by adding nothing to the conversation.
Troll harder, pigs.
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:58 pm to Hogwall Jackson
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Cam is better.
as things currently stand, no one is arguing
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 12:59 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 12:58 pm to KaiserSoze99
those arguments about d, and the like all can and should be made. But you can't sit there and say oh well you have to imagine that he would have gotten a bunch more TD's if he had stayed in so his real number would have been a lot closer to theres. Everybody qb deals with not getting to get extra td's in big blowout wins.
Manziel may have gotten an extra 2 TD's a game in those blowout wins cause yall's coach is a dick and doesn't know the meaning of respecting your opponent.
The stats are what you got against your competition. And thats the end of it.
Manziel may have gotten an extra 2 TD's a game in those blowout wins cause yall's coach is a dick and doesn't know the meaning of respecting your opponent.
The stats are what you got against your competition. And thats the end of it.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:02 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:exactly. stats are the stats. but to sit there and say " manziels season last year wasnt as good as tebows or cams because manziel had fewer touchdowns against SEC opponent", which is what that one poster was infering, would be a stupid thing to say when he missed a good amount of time that kept him from scoring more
The stats are what you got against your competition. And thats the end of it.
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:04 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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those arguments about d, and the like all can and should be made. But you can't sit there and say oh well you have to imagine that he would have gotten a bunch more TD's if he had stayed in so his real number would have been a lot closer to theres. Everybody qb deals with not getting to get extra td's in big blowout wins.
I agree with this. Which means what?
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Manziel may have gotten an extra 2 TD's a game in those blowout wins cause yall's coach is a dick and doesn't know the meaning of respecting your opponent.
Only true against Missouri, and he still came out of the game early. Sumlin was trying to impress Heisman voters and shite. Hardly the only one. The other games were all backup qbs in the third or fourth quarter.
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The stats are what you got against your competition. And thats the end of it.
Again, which means what? Stats are _________!
(HINT: Penn & Teller show)
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:04 pm to Hogwall Jackson
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Is this a JFF vs Cam thread?
Cam is better.
Tebow was in the conversation initially. Fwiw, he's also better than JFF.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:05 pm to Arkansasrazorback
quote:once again, where things currently stand, no one is arguing
Fwiw, he's also better than JFF.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:05 pm to Arkansasrazorback
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Tebow was in the conversation initially. Fwiw, he's also better than JFF.
Unrustled Jimmies -- 3
Trolling Arkies -- 0
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:06 pm to KaiserSoze99
first one was more of a response to WestCoast talking about how Manziel would have gotten the extra touchdowns cause the coach kept slinging it late.
second one I wasn't saying he got extra. Saying he may have gotten even more had he stayed in the game. Again talking to west coast.
I don't know what the last thing is asking me.
second one I wasn't saying he got extra. Saying he may have gotten even more had he stayed in the game. Again talking to west coast.
I don't know what the last thing is asking me.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:09 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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first one was more of a response to WestCoast talking about how Manziel would have gotten the extra touchdowns cause the coach kept slinging it late.
second one I wasn't saying he got extra. Saying he may have gotten even more had he stayed in the game. Again talking to west coast.
I don't know what the last thing is asking me.
Then, I agree with you. We're dealing in what-ifs. Which brings me to the last point which was:
Stats are __________!!!
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:10 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
and again. i was only responding to the one poster who wanted to make the point that manziels season was worse than cams and tebows because of the touchdown disparity by saying that is crappy way to compare them considering his situation was different
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:11 pm to KaiserSoze99
you sure laugh a lot- makes me think you're 'special'.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:11 pm to KaiserSoze99
stats?
I don't think TD's are the only factor, I do think they are one of the more important aspects of it though.
I don't think TD's are the only factor, I do think they are one of the more important aspects of it though.
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:14 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
quote:i agree
I do think they are one of the more important aspects of it though.
This post was edited on 7/12/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:15 pm to hawgfaninc
Last five years
1.JFF
2.Tebow
3.Cam
4.Garcia
5.McCarron
1.JFF
2.Tebow
3.Cam
4.Garcia
5.McCarron
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:16 pm to piggilicious
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you sure laugh a lot- makes me think you're 'special'.
Unrustled Jimmies -- 4
Trolling Arkies -- 0
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:19 pm to Mootsman
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Last five years
1.JFF
2.Tebow
3.Cam
4.Garcia
5.McCarron
What a terrible list. No mention of Tyler Bray, Aaron Murray, Tyler Wilson, Ryan Mallet, or even Chris Todd (who was better in 2009 than Stephen Garcia ever was). Greg McElroy and Connor Shaw were also better than Stephen Garcia. And Johnny Manziel is not number 1. Your number 3 should be your number 1, end of story.
Posted on 7/12/13 at 1:20 pm to CheeseburgerEddie
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I don't think TD's are the only factor, I do think they are one of the more important aspects of it though.
Agree. It doesn't tell the whole story, especially when talking about a QB. Stepping into the absurd to prove the point:
Luke Jockle is the greatest OT in the history of the universe because he has more touchdowns than every other OT.
Yay, us.
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