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re: When will Auburn fans start claiming they don't care about football that much?

Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
24700 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:43 am to
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quit caring when we lost to South Carolina for the 2nd year in a row.

I can’t believe we won that game. Harsin is such a idiot
Posted by Upperaltiger06
North Alabama
Member since Feb 2012
4219 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 9:51 am to
2 seasons ago. I can’t hardly watch college football anymore. Zero interest since Covid shite started. This is the 2nd time I’ve been on the Rant in as many years.


But I can still tell you we will suck this year and this coach ain’t the one.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
10427 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:04 am to
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No, the old excitement of CF is dead, maybe blame ESPN. Not going to change until they expand the playoffs and have earned positions in the playoff.


At the risk of derailing my own thread, I'm going to disagree with you here. The problem isn't that the playoffs are too restricted. The problem is the playoffs, period. College football has always been a sport that has been dominated by a few "juggernaut" teams at any given time. Those teams change through the years but the pattern remains the same.

70's - Alabama, Oklahoma, Nebraska, USC, Notre Dame
80's - Miami, Oklahoma, Nebraska
90's - Florida, Florida State, Nebraska, Tennessee
00's - LSU, Florida, Oklahoma, USC
10's - Alabama, Clemson, Ohio State, Georgia

Even the best teams often lose a game somewhere during the season, though, and prior to the playoff, one loss could be enough to knock you out of contention for the NC. Nowadays? Not so much. With more playoff spots up for grabs, there are more chances for the best teams to recover from a loss and still sneak in at the end. They effectively get a mulligan.

Look at last year for a good example of how things have changed. In the olden days, when Michigan beat Ohio State at the end of the year, they would have gone to either #1 or #2. Assuming everything else remained the same, pre-BCS they would then have gone on to play Utah in the Rose Bowl, while Alabama would have gone to the Sugar to play Clemson. Depending on how those games played out, the Wolverines would have had a decent shot at getting voted #1 and winning the NC, all while never having to play either Alabama or Georgia.

During the BCS era they would have gone to the BCSCG to play Alabama. Winning that game would have been a tall order, but at least they'd have only had to beat Alabama to win the NC.

Now, with the playoff, they would have had to have beaten both Georgia and Alabama to win the NC, which obviously was not happening. See how the playoff basically eliminates the chances of a team that would have been a serious contender under the old system, while allowing a team to compete and win the NC that would have been eliminated by the old system? That's why things seem so stale and repetitive. College football is not a sport in which all the teams are close to equal competitively, nor has it ever been one. The old poll system allowed us to pretend like it was, though. Now that we have eliminated that, we are left with what we've got - a system that is going to generate the same winners, every time. As the old curse goes, "May you receive your heart's desire." We got what we said we wanted, and now we're stuck with it.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
5087 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:06 am to
Lol why do Auburn fans care about basketball? They have been out of the 1st weekend of March Madness 1 time in 20 years.

Bruce has gone 1 time in 8 years. What a coach he is

South Carolina is the equivalent
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:09 am
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:10 am to
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Lol why do Auburn fans care about basketball?


Um, because we have been historically bad an now have the best coach and best players we've ever had on-campus. We've won or shared the SEC regular season or tournament 3 of the last 4 years. Pearl took us to our 1st Final Four ever.

Not to mention we had our 1st ever #1 ranking last year.

What's NOT to be excited about, debbie downer?
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
53168 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:11 am to
I'm a AU and Falcons fan...you tell me how invested I should be this fall. Will I watch everyone of them? Sure.

Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29757 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:14 am to
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Never.

Got anymore brain busters?


+1

To the OP, don't you know who your Auburn brethren are? You go to work with them. You go to church with them. You live next to them. You've lived your whole life in a state that only is good at one thing.

Being an Auburn fan is being a fan DESPITE a lesser history. That's the permanent chip on their shoulder you should be highly aware of.

You can hate on Auburn for many things, but being faithless is not among them from my experience. GFY btw boogs.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:18 am to
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That's the permanent chip on their shoulder you should be highly aware of.


Yep
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7769 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:19 am to
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When will Auburn fans start claiming they don't care about football that much?


Weren't they already doing that this past basketball season?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30941 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:25 am to
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No, Auburn fans are just like most of CF fans. The game has come down to a few teams being in a beauty contest. The same teams every year, even when they screw up and lose a game. Having a Committee of 12 "has been" officials determine who wins it all. Having a post season of Bowl games were the stars choose to sit out due to injury. No, the old excitement of CF is dead, maybe blame ESPN. Not going to change until they expand the playoffs and have earned positions in the playoff.



Now here's a PROFESSIONAL melt!
Everybody (TV, spoiled players, NCAA, same few teams, NIL, transfers...what am I missing??) is to blame!
"the old excitement of CF is dead,"...but somehow TV's paying BILLION$ for the rights, 100,000 plus stadiums are being filled on Saturdays, and coaches are making north of 10 MILLION dollars a year!
"Not going to change until they expand the playoffs and have earned positions in the playoff."
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:29 am to
Sweet. I was hoping to see a IP/CC battle here today!
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
22813 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:34 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:34 am to
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At the risk of derailing my own thread, I'm going to disagree with you here. The problem isn't that the playoffs are too restricted.


Never claimed it was too restrictive, it is the fact that teams do not have a concrete way of earning their way into the playoff (like every other sport). It is a beauty contest that starts in August.

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Even the best teams often lose a game somewhere during the season, though, and prior to the playoff, one loss could be enough to knock you out of contention for the NC. Nowadays? Not so much. With more playoff spots up for grabs, there are more chances for the best teams to recover from a loss and still sneak in at the end. They effectively get a mulligan.


Even during the poll era, every game counted. Look at FSU under Bowden, how many times did he finish as #2 because of an early loss to Miami? Now teams could take a week off and still win a championship. Look at who Bama lost to last year and almost lost to.

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Look at last year for a good example of how things have changed. In the olden days, when Michigan beat Ohio State at the end of the year, they would have gone to either #1 or #2. Assuming everything else remained the same, pre-BCS they would then have gone on to play Utah in the Rose Bowl, while Alabama would have gone to the Sugar to play Clemson. Depending on how those games played out, the Wolverines would have had a decent shot at getting voted #1 and winning the NC, all while never having to play either Alabama or Georgia.


The Bowl games were interesting and fun to watch, especially on NYD. Now it is boring and having the Championship Game on a Monday Night is anticlimactic to the boring season.

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Now, with the playoff, they would have had to have beaten both Georgia and Alabama to win the NC, which obviously was not happening. See how the playoff basically eliminates the chances of a team that would have been a serious contender under the old system, while allowing a team to compete and win the NC that would have been eliminated by the old system? That's why things seem so stale and repetitive. College football is not a sport in which all the teams are close to equal competitively, nor has it ever been one. The old poll system allowed us to pretend like it was, though. Now that we have eliminated that, we are left with what we've got - a system that is going to generate the same winners, every time. As the old curse goes, "May you receive your heart's desire." We got what we said we wanted, and now we're stuck with it.


We do not know how teams match up when they do not play each other. So the CFP doesn't really give us the answers. If you have automatic berths you would get a better answer. Until then it is a beauty contest and a filler for ESPN.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30941 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:35 am to

I can't believe that clown brought that tired old shite back in here!
Posted by Partha
Member since Jan 2022
7769 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:37 am to
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We do not know how teams match up when they do not play each other. So the CFP doesn't really give us the answers. If you have automatic berths you would get a better answer. Until then it is a beauty contest and a filler for ESPN.


I am not against CFP but agree with you that the system as it is currently set up sucks arse.

They need to either get rid of it or completely revise it.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:38 am to
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Now here's a PROFESSIONAL melt!
Everybody (TV, spoiled players, NCAA, same few teams, NIL, transfers...what am I missing??) is to blame!
"the old excitement of CF is dead,"...but somehow TV's paying BILLION$ for the rights, 100,000 plus stadiums are being filled on Saturdays, and coaches are making north of 10 MILLION dollars a year!
"Not going to change until they expand the playoffs and have earned positions in the playoff."



You are the most butthurt poster on here. I rubbed you nose in it and now you try and have a comeback. Schools will support their teams due to loyality to the school (Bama fans are different), but the excitement of the game is dying. You are the Cults biggest clown, and that is saying a lot.
This post was edited on 8/24/22 at 10:40 am
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:44 am to
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I am not against CFP but agree with you that the system as it is currently set up sucks arse.

They need to either get rid of it or completely revise it.


Under what system in the past would a team in the Championship game have lost to an 8-4 team and gone to 4 OTs against a 6-6 team? I could have accepted it if the SECC was an automatic berth, but to have the beauty contest still the standard after what we saw was a joke.
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
10761 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:44 am to
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I mean - did you care as much about football during the Mike, Fran, Mike and Mike era?


You're damn right I did. Maybe more.

It all comes too easy these days.

GTFO. I respect a rabid AU fan more than a milquetoast bama fan.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29757 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 10:57 am to
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You're damn right I did. Maybe more.

It all comes too easy these days.


It is the wrong word to say that i "envy" other teams in down cycles, but there is something i can't quite figure out that makes your own fandom so much more relevant and exciting. i suppose it's just the personal pride of knowing you aren't a fair-weather fan.

loving a sports team is really just masochism every...single...year. why do we do it? idk. but only 1 team gets the real glory in the end.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
5087 posts
Posted on 8/24/22 at 11:00 am to
Oh wow all that to say Pearl has been out of the first weekend one time in 8 years. Big time there.

Basketball is all about March Madness. Nothing else really matters.

You will learn that now that you are in year 3 or 4 of college basketball? I’m guessing you didn’t follow two years ago when Pearl and the Eagles went 13-14. What a coach
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