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re: What is fair market value for a recruit like Zion.

Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:01 am to
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
Aspen CO
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:01 am to
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Cam was 250, basketball one player means a lot more so I'd say around 400


NBA Asst GM told me 5 years ago the top 1-3 kids each year could pull up to $400k total package regardless of how long they stay. You nailed it.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:05 am to
It would be best for all the colleges if the NBA would accept kids out of high school. The one and done only F up college BB.
Posted by OldSchoolHorn
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:08 am to
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It would be best for all the colleges if the NBA would accept kids out of high school. The one and done only F up college BB.



pros and cons each way... mostly cons for the NBA.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 11:42 am to
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The discussion of paper trails has got me wondering if any Crypto is being used. While it may be beyond the comfort/savvy of many recruits and their families it certainly would be one way to muddy the money trail with the handler on the family end doing the conversion back to cash.

Crypto eventually has to be converted, one way or the other, electronically if it is going to be spent.

For the time being cash is the only way to go I would think.

I mean I know there are other ways to launder the transfer but cash is still king.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:07 pm to
There are Crypto (mostly Bitcoin) ATMs around the country (there are tons here)


That would just pull out too many red flags and too much of a paper trail if a recruit is paid in bitcoin and they or their family go to one of these ATMs to get the cash.

Sure you can buy things using bitcoin now days as well, not nearly as much as cash.

Bulge banks are in the beginning stages of crypto desks as well, but highly doubt they’d take on the business of some family in Spartanburg SC who just happened to come into a lot of bitcoin
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 12:11 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 12:25 pm to
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Kids are pretty much not allowed to have jobs now.


Parents are. About 70% of players’ parents move to Lawrence when their kid attends kU for basketball (IIRC).
Posted by houlsu
Member since Jan 2014
484 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:08 pm to
Parents got a 900k house in durham
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:09 pm to
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parents move to Lawrence

That sucks.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:11 pm to
1M easily. He alone puts so many asses in seats.
Posted by chawk195
Spartanburg, SC
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:29 pm to
Living in his hometown the word around here is about 650K is what Duke got him for.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:32 pm to
there is no fair market value. You have price fixing by the shoe companies that is all.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:35 pm to
I think that’s fair.
If that’s the case for him.
Wonder what the other two got.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13046 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:36 pm to
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To a team like Missouri, he’s probably worth $1M for a year.


So Mizzou was into Michael Porter Jr at least $500K. Interesting. They lost money.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:45 pm to
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For the time being cash is the only way to go I would think.


Prepaid Visa/MC cards were very popular with college athletes about 10 years ago.Not sure if it's still the case.

Very difficult to trace.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:47 pm to
We’re still paying his dad $450k/year.

Not sure this one is tough to find.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:54 pm to
You set up the crypto account for them. Pay them in crypto show them how to convert it and voila payment made and they can't track who it came from unless someone runs their mouth. You can also set up a few shell corporations in Wyoming, Nevada or Delaware where they allow such practices. Maybe throw in a family trust just to mix it up some. There is a lot of money laundered in America through those states.
This post was edited on 3/11/19 at 1:57 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 1:59 pm to
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Pay them in crypto show them how to convert it

How do they convert it?
I really don't know much about this besides that I've seen Bitcoin ATMS around the city.
Posted by yatesdog38
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Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:27 pm to
Have them open an account/wallet. you pay them via whatever token you want. you have to know their wallet address to facilitate payment. They take said token and then trade it for dollars. It works basically like spot market for currencies or similar to a transaction on a stock market trade. There is a bid and an ask price. You can put in a limit order or a market order. You transfer the bitcoin from your wallet to their wallet. They place trade to convert to dollars or euros or another digital currency. Then they transfers dollars to a bank account if they want.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:32 pm to
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Have them open an account/wallet. you pay them via whatever token you want. you have to know their wallet address to facilitate payment.

So I knew this

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They take said token and then trade it for dollars. It works basically like spot market for currencies or similar to a transaction on a stock market trade. There is a bid and an ask price. You can put in a limit order or a market order. You transfer the bitcoin from your wallet to their wallet. They place trade to convert to dollars or euros or another digital currency. Then they transfers dollars to a bank account if they want.

I knew this, but this is where I ask, how does this have no paper trail?
As I've said, Zion's family goes to a bank with a whole bunch of bitcoin, does this not throw off any kind of red flag?
Posted by yatesdog38
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Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 3/11/19 at 2:32 pm to
There may be a way to transfer straight dollars. I'm not 100% sure on that. I was having a bunch of people ask me about how everything worked so I went and setup an account myself to figure it out. Pretty fascinating stuff. Wish I would have done it 5 years ago.
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