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re: What if: Cam vs Ingram for the Heisman

Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:45 pm to
Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
20960 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:45 pm to
Not so sure about Georgia, you left Florida off the list altogether, and not a chance in hell this UT team is better than last years squad.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:48 pm to
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Ridiculous.You can't just look at the record of a few teams and determine that.


A few teams? 5 out of the 6 teams are ranked. There are 4 legitimate top 10 teams in the division. It's almost inarguable that this is the deepest and most difficult division since conferences started splitting 18 years ago.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:49 pm to
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Not so sure about Georgia


Defensively they are statistically better.

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you left Florida off the list altogether


We didn't play Florida this year or last year.

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and not a chance in hell this UT team is better than last years squad.


You're right I had that backwards.
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5419 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 10:51 pm to
Bama facing the then #1 Florida team in the SECCG probably gives 2009 Bama the edge in strength of schedule.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:04 pm to
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Bama facing the then #1 Florida team in the SECCG probably gives 2009 Bama the edge in strength of schedule.


Who did you guys beat in the regular season that was any good? Honest question? VT was good but AU, UT, LSU, Ark, MSU, USC were all average last year. We played 6 games against teams that were/are ranked. Three of them are legit top 10 teams and if So Car didn't have to play us twice they would be up there close as well. Plus a dangerous UGA team and Clemson before Kyle Parker realized he had millions of dollars at stake and mailed it in. Florida was obviously the best out of all the teams and you guys destroyed them but I think the overall depth of our schedule was more difficult.
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5419 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:08 pm to
First of all...i didn't play for Bama last year and I doubt YOU have ever played football for any college.

Bama's 2009 season was more impressive than auburn's 2010 season...plus Bama's season didn't have the stench of a paid player and possible sanctions hanging over it.

Deal with it.
Posted by RollTigers
Member since Dec 2010
3274 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:15 pm to
Cam wins, no question. This Heisman vote would be the most lopsided in history if there weren't so many dark clouds hanging over AU this year. Ingram barely won, and he only did imo because the NE/W/SW vote was split so hard between McCoy, Suh, and Gerhart with a few Ingram thrown in there. Take any of those three out and one of the remaining two wins. I'm not diminishing Ingram, he had a very good season, but it was a borderline 1st & 2nd team all-american season, not a Heisman season.

Like others have said, he wasn't even the best player on his team. He was better than Tate, though, and I think that AU fans should admit that much, at least. You don't see Bammers saying McElroy is better than Cam this year
Posted by BamaNixon
Stumptown
Member since Nov 2010
3266 posts
Posted on 12/6/10 at 11:47 pm to
Anyone who thinks Tate is/was better than Mark Ingram should never be taken seriously in anything they do in their life, ever. They shouldn't be able to vote, even in Alabama. I wouldn't let someone that stupid handle the remote control to my television.
Posted by AUTigLN11
Marietta
Member since Mar 2010
4833 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 6:24 am to
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First of all...i didn't play for Bama last year and I doubt YOU have ever played football for any college.




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Bama's 2009 season was more impressive than auburn's 2010 season


If that makes you feel better.

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Deal with it.


13-0, 28-27, greatest player in CFB history, most dominating SECCG win ever, headed to Glendale, All In, Family.

Deal with it redneck.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
34571 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 8:20 am to
Ingram's great but he was a fill-in heisman winner. "The best player on the best team award". CN's hype this year is wayyyy bigger than Ingram's hype ever was. Only once in a while is the heisman winner the player most people really think is the best player in the country. This year, that'll be the case.
Posted by bama my heart
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
Member since Mar 2007
1293 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:01 am to
Cam in a landslide

That is a shame. Until Mark Ingram, Bo Jackson's year was the closest vote ever, and to think that more people would think that someone like Cam Newton deserves this award than they did Bo Jackson is just stupid. One day people are really going to find out what this kid is like, and believe me it will come out. Someone like this just does not change when things are always handed to him, and when he gets in trouble it is covered up. No matter how much talent he has, when you play with the big boys, it will not be covered up for you, because you will just be one little fish in a very big pond, and they will not really care about you.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:14 am to
who's dad is the biggest loser ?
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5419 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 10:16 am to
THAT would be a close one.
Posted by RammerJammerBammer
Land of the Tennessee Titans
Member since Sep 2009
9153 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:14 am to
Cam wins the Heisman

but 10 AU > 09 Bama???

AU hasnt won the title yet
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:22 am to
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Last year's SEC Defenses > This year's SEC defenses


So that means Mark sucks against worse defenses...
Posted by Aubie83
Member since Jan 2008
5012 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:28 am to
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Like others have said, he wasn't even the best player on his team. He was better than Tate, though, and I think that AU fans should admit that much, at least. You don't see Bammers saying McElroy is better than Cam this year


I think Tates numbers could have been equal to Ingrams if he was playing behind Bama's Oline last year...but numbers were better than Tates...
Posted by cyde
He gone
Member since Nov 2005
31876 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 11:35 am to
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rbWarEagle

Newsflash: Having an opinion which differs from rb's = being retarded.

That is all.
Posted by plutonium55
Chernobyl Former USSR
Member since Mar 2010
2969 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 12:12 pm to
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FTBLFN


Since you have that picture you need to change your sig to:

“Let it be known if the bammers win tonight ( against Texas) it might just kill me. The amount of cheating by the SEC this year on their behalf is sickening”….. Mark Green 1/7/2010
Posted by FTBLFN
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2010
5419 posts
Posted on 12/7/10 at 12:13 pm to
great idea
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