re: What grades would you give Kelly and Napier so far?

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Is your evaluation of teams based purely on the SEC Media Days press predictions? Did you watch a single game this season? I don't think you did.

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Then why can't you name the team?

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Who?

I mean this is the list of teams.

Alabama
Arkansas
Auburn
LSU
Ole Miss
Texas A&M

I can see Auburn being last in the west, but who else? The only other team anyone would have considered would have been LSU, but LSU just beat them.

So that leaves Auburn.

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I mean I could conceivably see State finish anywhere from 2nd to last in the West.

Why are you so convinced they're bad?

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I mean I could conceivably see State finish anywhere from 2nd to last in the West.

Why are you so convinced they're bad?

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I'd love to see them finish better, and I'd love to see them kick the shite out of A&M this weekend. Could happen, I don't know the future. Teams wins and lose games they shouldn't all the time.

But it's not really the most likely of scenarios. What's most likely is they finish 2nd last in the West.

I also hope LSU can talk about a top15 win they have after this coming weekend by kicking the shite out of Tennessee. Could happen. But is it the most likely thing to happen? No.

So when evaluating teams, I'm going to look at what I think is most likely. Maybe that'll be different next week, but right now it's most likely that Miss St will finish 2nd to last in the West. Even if they manage to pull a win out against another SEC west team(other than auburn, who I think they will beat), it's still going to be way down there.

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So when evaluating teams, I'm going to look at what I think is most likely.

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Sounds a lot like “eye test” bullshite.

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Btw, not a single LSU fan has named a team they expect to finish behind Miss St.

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I personally think it's way too early to know who will finish where.

You said you couldn't see Mississippi State being better than 2nd to worst in the West so I was just curious what makes you think they're bad at this early of a juncture, especially when numerous other teams have looked really awful at times.

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Are you suggesting I'm unique in this?

Btw, not a single LSU fan has named a team they expect to finish behind Miss St.

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This.

The reality is that a B coach would have LSU at 4-0 right now. They're at 3-1. Thus my grade of C-.

Now my basis of what a B coach is would be the average Mark Richt coaching year. In my mind, he's a B level coach through and through. If you think Mark Richt is better than a B, then you might have Kelly higher on that scale. But he's in the sub-Mark Richt zone right now.

Again.. that's based on 4 games. He's got plenty of time to do better.

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I personally think it's way too early to know who will finish where.

You said you couldn't see Mississippi State being better than 2nd to worst in the West so I was just curious what makes you think they're bad at this early of a juncture, especially when numerous other teams have looked really awful at times.

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It's likely the least talented team in the West, it's coached by Mike Leach and they've already lost to LSU.

So, let's go over the other teams then.

vs Alabama - unlikely.

vs Arkansas - I think Arkansas matches up well against the air raid, and Arkansas is more likely to get it's 3rd win in a row over Miss St.

vs Auburn - I think they can beat Auburn.

vs LSU - Already lost.

vs Ole Miss - I think Ole Miss is more talented, and better coached. I think most likely is Ole Miss and Kiffin get their 3rd win in a row.

vs Texas A&M - Big talent gap, but Leach already has history against them with Tech. Doesn't seem like Jimbo is the better coach, but the talent gap is pretty big. It's be great to see Miss St pull off the upset this weekend, and it's likely their best chance to do so. But I still think Miss St is the underdog.

Even if we give them the win vs A&M here, thats 2-4 SEC record. A&M has the win over Arkansas already, likely wins vs Auburn.

So maybe it comes down to the east as a tie breaker, you have A&M vs Florida and South Carolina, and Miss St vs Kentucky and Georgia. Well, I think that's 2 losses for Miss St, and probably 1 loss at worse for A&M.

That's still 2nd to last in the SEC west.

And that's why not a single LSU fan has named a team. You can't.

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All that sounds logical, but State will still win 3 or 4 SEC games. Their Defense is good, their Offense forces you to play hard and disciplined every play. Home games for them are a big advantage with the cowbells. They will mess up at least one of the bigger teams. Glad it won't be us.

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Not this year. As I mentioned above, they have the SEC West, and then they have Georgia and Kentucky for their East opponents. It's a really difficult schedule.

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I stopped reading here because this makes absolutely no sense.

Arkansas is a terrible matchup for an air raid offense, their secondary is struggling and they're missing a ton of tackles.

An air raid offense is going to stress them to the max.

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I'm aware of that passing yards Arkansas has given up.

Air raid offenses are not like the others.