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re: What grades would you give Kelly and Napier so far?

Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:56 pm to
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Losing to Kentucky should never be a “thing” at BHG stadium. Ever

Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 9:57 pm to
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Stating facts relevant to the topic at hand. Whether you choose to acknowledge those facts does not determine their legitimacy.

You stated that Mullen would've never gone for 2 when he didn't have to. I proved you wrong with the facts. Whether you choose to acknowledge these facts does not determine their legitimacy.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 9:58 pm
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44854 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:00 pm to
Florida's biggest problem right now is the same problem they had last year - cultural. I think it's getting better but that takes a little time to change and they are not in the point in their season where they've imploded in the past. If they get one or two games more into the season and are still fighting hard every game, even if they lose, that's progress against the implosions they've had.

LSU looked terrible against FSU but it was game 1. I haven't paid attention to any of the no name games. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how they do against Auburn.
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:01 pm to
Didn't you get the message? If a coach loses to a top 10 team at home in year 1 that means they suck.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
16162 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:06 pm to
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You stated that Mullen would've never gone for 2 when he didn't have to. I proved you wrong with the facts.


Totally different circumstances. But if that makes you feel better, good for you. At the end of the day, not other coach has fared better against saban in the sec championship.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
4900 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:08 pm to
Kelly- B+
Pandy Fackler- F…ucking stupid
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
44854 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:14 pm to
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Didn't you get the message? If a coach loses to a top 10 team at home in year 1 that means they suck.


This board is the embodiment of 'instant gratification culture.' Programs need stability to thrive. Look at what UK has managed to with just holding steady and slowly building on top of it each year or what Mizzou was able to accomplish under Pinkel. Stability is an enormous part of the equation.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61626 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:20 pm to
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LSU looked terrible against FSU but it was game 1. I haven't paid attention to any of the no name games. I'm very much looking forward to seeing how they do against Auburn.


I mean Mississippi State is better than Auburn...
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5833 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:35 pm to
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That was just completely bizarre. There's no way of explaining it

Sure there is. According to nerds it gives you a better percentage chance to win. You just throw the tie and overtime away.
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 10:35 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:43 pm to
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At the end of the day, not other coach has fared better against saban in the sec championship.

And another lie.
You keep doing you.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30905 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 2:35 am to
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State. Shove your smug rebuttal up your arse.




So the team that's likely to finish 2nd to last in the West as their ceiling?
Posted by TigerNutwhack
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
4202 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 5:58 am to
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Even if you viewed FSU as a 50/50 game... Kelly has essentially won the games he was supposed to win and lost his only 50/50 game.


I'm pretty sure MSU was favored at game time, so people didn't think LSU was "supposed" to win that one.

This thread is really too early. Both teams seem to be heading in the right direction. I have no idea what the situation at Florida was, but it's been well documented what kind of shite show Orgeron left at LSU. From a talent stand point, at certain positions, we are great. At others the cupboard was bare and from an organizational standpoint it was a nightmare. From a recruiting and organization standpoint Kelley is getting a B+ to A. Culture takes time to change. We will see how the team responds if they lose 2-3 in a row. We also have depth issues. God help us if one of our freshman OT's goes down.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:03 am to
BK- A-; but only because of the ? calls against FSU and some of the weird recruiting things, that seem to work.

BN- B+, he’s 2-2 can’t give an A; also he showed his A$$ last weekend a bit, but it seems like a pretty good fit.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
4281 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:52 am to
WTF does my membership and amount of posts have to do with anything?
#dumba$$
Posted by VolNavy98
Tun Tavern
Member since Jul 2022
3853 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 6:56 am to
Kelly- C+
Napier- C
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
38681 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 7:33 am to
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LSU was the favorite with betting lines


Barely

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has a higher level of team talent than FSU


High school star rankings mean nothing for LSU at this point.

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a coach that most (including myself) perceived as being superior to FSU


I still do. I also think Norvell is perhaps a bit unfairly maligned.

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the game was in New Orleans which should have given them somewhat of a home field advantage.


New Orleans is not a home field for LSU.

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Didn't you think LSU would beat FSU?


I did, but I wasn't surprised by the loss.

I think you're underestimating how bad off LSU was.
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8547 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:08 am to
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So the team that's likely to finish 2nd to last in the West as their ceiling?


You know this as an absolute certainty? Lol.

"But Pawl, LSU ain't played nobody!"
Posted by vholley50
Midland City,Al
Member since Nov 2013
354 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:10 am to
F for Napier.
B for Kelly
Napier 4 th and 7 on your your side of the field.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19898 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:21 am to
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Napier 4 th and 7 on your your side of the field.



Its called Our Defense hasnt stopped em, i need 2 scores and its late in the game.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 9/28/22 at 8:35 am to
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Kicker makes the field goal, he's a good head coach.

Kicker doesn't and he's a bad head coach.

That's rather ridiculous sounding when you look at everything that goes into being a head coach.


It's foolish to think one thing causes a win or a loss. While the missed kick was part of it, there were plenty of other mistakes by players and bad decisions on Kelly's part that ended up in total leading to the loss.

The grand total of what Kelly did with his team resulted in a loss in the only game that was a 50/50 game (by your estimation). That's the grand total of his results so far. A loss in a 50/50 game and wins in games where LSU was heavily favored.

That's not a B grade. It's a C grade at best. Losing your only toss up game is not a good performance... and it's not just one play that caused it.
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