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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:46 am to Irons Puppet
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What other coach can match that in 5 years at a School?
Gus is averaging 4.4 losses per year.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:47 am to AU24
I guess a B-.
Some great wins.
Some odd things like not being able to reliably find a QB who can run his stuff.
Gus without two of the biggest plays in college football history is not a 49 million dollar man. In some ways, the 2017 team was better as far as Xs and Os, but that 2013 read option with Marshall and Mason was incredible.
Gus is our best option right now. The SEC network and Saban’s outsize success have really upped the pay scale for SEC football coaches.
Some great wins.
Some odd things like not being able to reliably find a QB who can run his stuff.
Gus without two of the biggest plays in college football history is not a 49 million dollar man. In some ways, the 2017 team was better as far as Xs and Os, but that 2013 read option with Marshall and Mason was incredible.
Gus is our best option right now. The SEC network and Saban’s outsize success have really upped the pay scale for SEC football coaches.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:58 am to Che Boludo
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2014 was a let down in a big way based on expectations. 2015 was an abortion slightly less embarrassing that Chizik's swan song. 2016 was another avg performance, which had him firmly on a hot seat. 2017 was a pivotal year. Beating UA and UGA in the regular season while getting 10 wins helped save his job IMO.
2014 he didn't take much blame fair or otherwise...he was still playing with Roof's guys on D which Johnson's guys completely lost and the O was unstoppable save the uga game.
2015 was the year things went south perception wise for Gus...still not sure what was wrong with JJ. He had the physical tools. This year allowed us to experience SW who played hard but Auburn was never going to compete for a or win a SEC Championship with that level of QB running the show.
2016 IMO the season went from 10 wins to 8 wins in one simple decision...Rhett chased JFIII instead of the kid who went to Va Tech. The D was up to snuff. The O was good enough with a better than average QB to win 10, without injuries to SW we'd of won 9 and might have found 10 anyway.
2017 Clemson and LSU were tough loses...I don't worry much about UCF. It was obvious the fans and players went through the motion in the stadium that day. Even then we were driving when JS went herp derp. The wins against bama and uga are often minimized, but in the context of the season they were huge. The loss to uga was tough, but you could see us limping into that game and uga was fired up after getting spanked a few weeks earlier.
Gus has done B work...maybe B+ considering he shares the state with Saban. But losing to O last year drops him to a B. As an Auburn fan 2018 will tell the tale on Gus. Can he become more consistent? We have the parts to win 10+ and compete but some things will need to be brought along as a coaching staff. If they don't we will win 8 games with a top 3 QB in the SEC. Auburn fans don't want to admit it, but in truth this would make Gus just another average Auburn coach. Not terrible, but not long for the job on the plains. Of course, with the contract he'll get 4 years and might have another special year mixed in that keeps him around longer.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:05 am to Irons Puppet
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Again, only UGA could have made that kid look like an AA. He threw it into triple coverage and still scored a TD, only seems to happen to the career underachievers. Crazy concept.
Do you deliberately throw these stupid-arse posts out there to try to piss somebody off, or is it just you being you?....I'm serious. Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:08 am to Tigerman97
I give Gus an A+. I seriously hope he stays for 20 years. He is very much a one-trick pony. Sure, he can get his boys up to beat Bama every now and then but can't seem to get them up to win 11 out of 12 games against everyone else even every other year.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:18 am to TheCheshireHog
C
Posted on 4/15/18 at 9:44 am to Crimson Wraith
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Gus is averaging 4.4 losses per year.
What about the rest of the resume ? Who has similar accomplishments in the SEC ? And the rest of the nation ? Are any of them considered average HC ?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:37 am to AU24
B to B+
He is the Mark Dantonio of our conference. They pretty much have done the same thing the past 5 years but one is considered one of the best in cfb while the other is talked about like he's a joke
He is the Mark Dantonio of our conference. They pretty much have done the same thing the past 5 years but one is considered one of the best in cfb while the other is talked about like he's a joke
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:02 am to Irons Puppet
The guys most similar to gus were richt and miles and sumlin.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:21 am to coachcrisp
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Again, only UGA could have made that kid look like an AA. He threw it into triple coverage and still scored a TD, only seems to happen to the career underachievers. Crazy concept.
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Do you deliberately throw these stupid-arse posts out there to try to piss somebody off, or is it just you being you?....I'm serious.
He's just trolling some Georgia fans because they have been giving him a hard time...which is why I haven't gotten into it.
But if he really believed his post, he would be asking himself why Stidham did not look like an AA against Georgia.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:24 am to Irons Puppet
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Gus is averaging 4.4 losses per year.
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What about the rest of the resume ? Who has similar accomplishments in the SEC ? And the rest of the nation ? Are any of them considered average HC ?
I actually do agree with Puppet and some of the other Auburn poster with this point. He is a paradox. yes, he loses a lot of games, but he has also won two SEC West Championship and taken Auburn to a National Title game, almost winning it.
I hope Kirby doesn't fall to losing 5 games a year after this past season, but it is what it is. It could happen. Nobody expected Gus to average 5 losses the last 4 years, wither.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:29 am to djsdawg
quote:I'd imagine his first five year comparison is ahead of Tubs and on par with both Dye's and Bowden's.
The guys most similar to gus...
Only Dye had an upward trend after yr 5, and I don't think Bowden made it out of year 6.
Gus has done a nice job for AU in a much more competitive SEC than any of the other 3 coaches I listed had to contend.
But, AU has the resources, facilities, name recognition, national brand, and recruiting base to do very well compared to other programs nationally.
While he has done well, it is reasonable to assume a number of coaches could have done as well in the same situation... assuming the ball bounced the same way for them a few times in 2013.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 11:49 am
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:40 am to DawgsLife
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But if he really believed his post, he would be asking himself why Stidham did not look like an AA agai
He did the first game. UGAs secondary cost them a NC, that plus Smart going brain dead in the second half. Three plays where UGA had people in position to INT or force an incompletion, one resulted in a TD, one an interception and another dropped INT. Most of the other passes by Tua were safe throws except for the coverage breakdown on the last play. Again, if UGA secondary just makes one play, even Kirby couldn't get in their way of a NC.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:41 am to Irons Puppet
Losing 4.4 games a year is not good.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:50 am to AU24
I'd give him a solid B+ with the caveat that at times Gus is his on worst enemy. He'll drop a couple of games each year because he will get hell bent on doing something that isn't working and will refuse to change. The man can get stuck in a rut.
Other then that his offense is effective and can absolutely tear up slower teams. He recruits well. He's hired decent DCs for the most part. He's been a very solid hire for Auburn.
But he is going to make the Auburn fans miserable a couple of times a year.
Other then that his offense is effective and can absolutely tear up slower teams. He recruits well. He's hired decent DCs for the most part. He's been a very solid hire for Auburn.
But he is going to make the Auburn fans miserable a couple of times a year.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:58 am to Irons Puppet
quote:Why not the fist game. You want to point out that UGA underachieves or chokes, yet when it counted.....really counted (Auburn was in the running for the playoffs) Auburn was the team to lose.
He did the first game.
quote:You can only cover receivers for so long. On the TD pass, the QB was not pressured as he should have been. It was inevitable that a WR would get open.
Three plays where UGA had people in position to INT or force an incompletion, one resulted in a TD
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Again, if UGA secondary just makes one play, even Kirby couldn't get in their way of a NC.
I don't think anybody would argue that our secondary was our weakest position group. But, again, you would think Stidham could have done better if we were making QB's look like AA. I realize you were overstating to irritate some of the guys, but Auburn fans are making a big deal about giving Gus a higher grade primarily based upon his appearance in the National Championship game. Then some conveniently forget that Kirby just did the same this past year.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:02 pm to Irons Puppet
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But if he really believed his post, he would be asking himself why Stidham did not look like an AA agai
He did the first game.
Really?....250 yards passing is All-American like? 
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:12 pm to Crimson Wraith
quote:It places him in the 25-28 range of current BCS HCs in all time HC win % and win % at current school.
Losing 4.4 games a year is not good.
So, while not great, it certainly isn't bad. He's been a B range coach, which most have said.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:16 pm to Che Boludo
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It places him in the 25-28 range of current BCS HCs in all time HC win % and win % at current school.
So, while not great, it certainly isn't bad. He's been a B range coach, which most have said.
Where does it rank him among active head coaches in the sec?
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