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re: What grade would you give Malzahn after 5 years
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:21 pm to Crimson Wraith
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:21 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Losing 4.4 games a year is not good.
Again, three of those loses were Top 10 Teams in Bowls. Three were loses to eventual NC (4 with FSU). Three to the NC runner-up.
That is 9 loses to Top 10 Teams.
8 loses to Top 20 Teams.
That leaves 6 unexplained loses in 5 years, with most of them coming in 2015 with a bad QB:
A&M (14)
UGA (15)
MSU (15)
Ark (15)
A&M (16)
UGA (16)
I will add the 2017 LSU Game as another totally unacceptable loss because how is started. So keep throwing those four per season loss record out, but AU doesn't play in the SECE.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:24 pm to coachcrisp
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e did the first game.
Really?....250 yards passing is All-American like?
It is when you have a RB running over 100 yards DA. Airbnb has been upset a lot lately. All those rental occupants keeping you up lately. Spring Break should be over by now.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:25 pm to Irons Puppet
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I will add the 2017 LSU Game as another totally unacceptable loss
2016 UGA should have been unacceptable.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:31 pm to meansonny
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2016 UGA should have been unacceptable.
It was and it is on my list.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:35 pm to Irons Puppet
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It was and it is on my list.
Unexplained =/= unacceptable
You should be more clear.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:38 pm to Irons Puppet
quote:Know how I can tell when you've really got your pussy sore?....Look at your post, and I'll bet you can guess.
It is when you have a RB running over 100 yards DA. Airbnb has been upset a lot lately. All those rental occupants keeping you up lately. Spring Break should be over by now.
Edit: and a RB rushing for 100 yard would make it easier for the QB to go for more passing yards, genius.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:45 pm to meansonny
quote:Given turnover of 50% of the SEC it's not the most accurate assessment, but the context of each situation creates it's own set of issues.
Where does it rank him among active head coaches in the sec?
But...
Going into 2017, looks like he was 4th in the SEC for win % at his school. 2 of the coaches ahead of him, McElwain and Sumlin did not survive 2017. But, one of the ones behind him has passed him (Smart).
Of all current SEC HC, he is 5th win all time HC win % behind Fisher, Saban,Smart, and Moorehead. But, one of those HCs records does not include BCS level experience.
Of current SEC HC win %s at their current schools, he is 4th behind Saban, Smart, and Coach O.
I'm on my phone and the site doesn't self sort columns, so I may have missed one. But, I think it's pretty close. LINK
Posted on 4/15/18 at 12:57 pm to coachcrisp
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Edit: and a RB rushing for 100 yard would make it easier for the QB to go for more passing yards, genius.
Also a reason why the QB wouldn't have to throw DA. I though you claimed to know Football ?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:00 pm to AU24
Around a B+. He made a championship and had another shot this year.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:07 pm to Irons Puppet
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A&M (14)
UGA (15)
MSU (15)
Ark (15)
A&M (16)
UGA (16)
Forgot LSU last season and Texas A&M in 2014. A&M really wasn't a very good team in 2016....but all in all this is a fair point.
quote:They were not ranked, either. If you are going to count rankings at the time the game was played, then LSU last year must be counted as a loss to an unranked team.
I will add the 2017 LSU Game as another totally unacceptable loss because how is started.
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So keep throwing those four per season loss record out, but AU doesn't play in the SECE.
Is it safe to say Auburn is happy with losing to good teams, then? I mean, I get your point, but Georgia used to get beat by better, higher ranked teams with an unexplicable loss thrown in every now and then, too. that's why Mark Richt was fired
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:26 pm to AU24
C+
Not enough big wins to offset the big losses.
Not enough big wins to offset the big losses.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 1:36 pm to DawgsLife
Most of the rankings were based on end of season. My point is teams are going to lose some games when you play the gauntlet of the SECW. Gus has lost his share, but he also has won at a level only Saban has surpassed in the SEC over the last 5 seasons.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:30 pm to Irons Puppet
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gauntlet of the SECW.
What years was it a gauntlet?
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:38 pm to djsdawg
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What years was it a gauntlet?
2014 to start with when four of the teams were in the Playoff Poll at some point. The gauntlet took its effect that year. 2013 had two of the top 4 teams in the country in December. 2017 the NC wasn't even the top team in the division. I would call it a gauntlet, I know any team from the East would not recognize it.
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:38 pm to djsdawg
Losing to Bama most years makes it a gauntlet to them
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:41 pm to Irons Puppet
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Most of the rankings were based on end of season. My point is teams are going to lose some games when you play the gauntlet of the SECW.
Well, teams are going to lose some games when they play in the east, too, but that doesn't make them good. For some reason people from west teams seem to believe just because they play in the west they are good. There were some pretty bad teams in the west this year, and there have been some bad teams for several years now. I mean, the west champions this past year lost 4 games, two in the regular season. Yes, I know it was to the defending champs, but they also lost to a mediocre LSU team and a non P5 team.
However, I will give you the point that Gus has lost a lot of games to highly ranked teams. But if you are going to be a top team those are the games you have to win.
Yes, Georgia lost to Alabama and Auburn. but we also beat a good Notre Dame team, Auburn and Oklahoma. Georgia played the 6th toughest schedule in the country last season. If Auburn gets a pass for losing to Clemson and Georgia, then surely Georgia should get a pass for losing to Alabama. I mean it was at the end of a brutal season playing an exceptionally tough schedule, right?
This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 3:46 pm
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:51 pm to Irons Puppet
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2014 to start with when four of the teams were in the Playoff Poll at some point. The gauntlet took its effect that year. 2013 had two of the top 4 teams in the country in December. 2017 the NC wasn't even the top team in the division. I would call it a gauntlet, I know any team from the East would not recognize it.
2014 is the only reasonable answer.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 3:59 pm to djsdawg
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2014 is the only reasonable answer.
2013 had four teams in the Top 20. 2015 Had three teams in the Top 15 and MSU with a 9 win season. 2016 had two teams in the Top 15 and AU as the Sugar Bowl representative. 2017 had 4 Teams in the Top 20. I think it goes beyond 2014, take your red and black glasses off.
Posted on 4/15/18 at 4:12 pm to AU24
A solid B when looked at overall. Maybe a B- when you take into account that it feels more like Malzahn has settled into being a solid coach but isn't on a slow steady upward trajectory that every fan wants for their program. Then again, Auburn has always had a weird pattern of being up one year and down the next so it may well be unfair to expect Gus to have that kinda trajectory at Auburn.
Overall I feel like Gus is a good coach but that something is holding him back. I don't know enough about either him or Auburn's program to speculate on what that might be though.
Overall I feel like Gus is a good coach but that something is holding him back. I don't know enough about either him or Auburn's program to speculate on what that might be though.
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