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Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:16 pm to allin2010
It will get figured out; everything does. I have a feeling leaner, taller and faster linebackers and having 1-2 shut down corners on an island will be the key as apposed to having 270ish pound hybrids on the outside.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:17 pm to parkjas2001
Ball control is your best weapon and that's what LSU did against A&M last two years while containing edges on defense with speedy DE's.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:18 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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yeah bama definitely needs more speed at linebacker if this turns to the norm for offenses.
This isn't a flame on the lbs from the last 5 years they were really good.
Alabama's linebackers have been incredible, but they're pro style guys. If Auburn and A&M keep putting out fine tuned, fast offenses, they'll have to make some changes in personnel and scheming.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:21 pm to tdauburn
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What are some good ways to shut down the HUNH offense?
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Welcome to the board Kirby
Actually pretty funny. Have an upvote
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:21 pm to TydeLyfe
Damn, this place is getting big. Now we got Saban coming to ask for advice on the HUNH.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:29 pm to wadewilson
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they'll have to make some changes in personnel and scheming.
Already begun. Common knowledge that saban has a checklist of criteria a kid has to meet before he is recruited. In the past, for linebackers part of that has been the frame to reach 240-250 pounds in college.
Guys like Evans and Whitley (although he decommitted) fit the mold of the quick twitch athletic linebackers.
If anyone can "figure it out" it's Nick Saban, so I'm not really worried about that. The only HUNH that has given Alabama trouble when a chance at the dance was on the line was a transcenednt talent in JFF and an Auburn team that incorporated a power running game behind a physical line and a very fast quarterback.
OM is a talented team that runs it and they've gotten their shite pushed in against bama and torched LSU. A&M has lit bama up and gotten their shite pushed in by LSU.
Their isn't a cookie cutter solution to "stopping the HUNH"
You just have to play sound assignment football. Don't miss tackles, don't let your man go free, beat your block, be ready to sub.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:29 pm to BAP2001
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Watch tape of SC vs Clemson the past 3 years.
Chad Morris hasn't developed an answer for South Carolina in 3 years as Clemson's offensive coordinator. I don't get the hype about him, but that's for another topic. Congrats on winning 5 in a row over your archrival.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:33 pm to wadewilson
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Depth on the D line is huge.
Yes, it'd be nice if Alabama had a more penetrative defensive line. Aside from 2011, when has Alabama's defensive secondary been great enough to handle good quarterback play? Either Alabama develops their pass rush and penetration, or they strengthen their secondary.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:35 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
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A couple of things:
1. Always sub as much as possible when the offense substitutes.
2. Tackle well in the open field.
3. Defensive Linemen must be ready to put their hands up to bat down passes.
4. Mess up the timing whenever possible.
5. (this may sound odd) force the offense to execute quicker than they would like.
I like these suggestions. Saban is really panicking and overcomplicating the issue no? I'm willing to admit that.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:37 pm to joeytiger
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Have the best DC in the game (Chief Chavis).
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joeytiger
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LSU Fan
It makes sense now.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:39 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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Already begun. Common knowledge that saban has a checklist of criteria a kid has to meet before he is recruited. In the past, for linebackers part of that has been the frame to reach 240-250 pounds in college.
Guys like Evans and Whitley (although he decommitted) fit the mold of the quick twitch athletic linebackers.
If anyone can "figure it out" it's Nick Saban, so I'm not really worried about that. The only HUNH that has given Alabama trouble when a chance at the dance was on the line was a transcenednt talent in JFF and an Auburn team that incorporated a power running game behind a physical line and a very fast quarterback.
OM is a talented team that runs it and they've gotten their shite pushed in against bama and torched LSU. A&M has lit bama up and gotten their shite pushed in by LSU.
Their isn't a cookie cutter solution to "stopping the HUNH"
You just have to play sound assignment football. Don't miss tackles, don't let your man go free, beat your block, be ready to sub.
Upvoted. Preach brotha. Preach.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:43 pm to polydorr
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Depends. Whose HUNH are we talking about? Auburn's? Study the zone read and triple option that Auburn runs, you won't completely stop it but assignmentzzz
I believe where some coaches screw up is by trying to stop everything that Auburn does on offense which plays right into Malzahn's hands. He's a master play caller and if he gets a defensive coordinator reacting to trends, then he'll know their next move before they do.
I think the way to try to defend him is to put a large amount of your focus on trying to take away one aspect of his offense no matter what. Try to make the triple option "just" the option. I would put a strong emphasis on stopping the inside running game since that's probably the most consistent way to move the chains.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:44 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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OM is a talented team that runs it and they've gotten their shite pushed in against bama and torched LSU.
I have no explanation for why we haven't taken Ole Miss seriously the last couple of years, but speedy ends and linebackers have been a priority for Chavis, rather than big run-blocking types.
He also has no problem making adjustments in the middle of a game. We won't have the quality depth on the D-line this year that we're accustomed to, so I'm curious to see how it goes.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 3:58 pm to TydeLyfe
You put your best 11 on the field and let them play. Use your best defense. Don't try to guess what the O is going to do. If you try to sub in and out every play you will have them out of position most of the time.
Coach Smart tried to guess. Wanted to sub every play. They didn't get set. Last years DB's were not that great as a group. So that may have been part of his problem.
Coach Smart tried to guess. Wanted to sub every play. They didn't get set. Last years DB's were not that great as a group. So that may have been part of his problem.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 4:12 pm to DMagic
No Huddle didn't beat LSU against Ole Miss
But I think even u know this
But I think even u know this
Posted on 3/7/14 at 4:22 pm to TydeLyfe
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My buddies at work said that highschool coaches have figured it out a long time ago because that's where it came from. What are some ways they are using and will we see college coaches doing the same thing?
Whatever Bama did against Ole Miss last year
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:04 pm to Damn Good Dawg
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People should like, idk, just stop them, man.
If the OP had only been posted yesterday, this replay would have been perfect.
March 6 - The Day of The Dude
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:23 pm to beatbammer
In a word, simplify. I don't claim to be an expert on Chavis' schemes at LSU but it seems to me he does 2 important things to counter HUNH/zone read teams. One is to have a penetrating and disruptive D line that attacks and causes havoc in the backfield. The other is call a play, stick with it and let your damn players play.
Saban on the other hand has to try to out think/scheme you on every play which IMO seems to be the worst thing to try to do against a fast offense. Saban's other problem is his "brick wall" style of D line play. He coaches them to hold their ground and not penetrate so as not to run yourself out of the play against running QB's. The problem with that is you don't get much pressure without bringing extra defenders and any SEC QB will complete passes given plenty of time.
LSU fans if I am off base with how Chavis does his thing, by all means feel free to correct me.
Saban on the other hand has to try to out think/scheme you on every play which IMO seems to be the worst thing to try to do against a fast offense. Saban's other problem is his "brick wall" style of D line play. He coaches them to hold their ground and not penetrate so as not to run yourself out of the play against running QB's. The problem with that is you don't get much pressure without bringing extra defenders and any SEC QB will complete passes given plenty of time.
LSU fans if I am off base with how Chavis does his thing, by all means feel free to correct me.
Posted on 3/7/14 at 5:23 pm to TydeLyfe
quote:What would a bunch of Wendy's employees know about football?quote:My buddies at work said that highschool coaches have figured it out a long time ago because that's where it came from
What are some good ways to shut down the HUNH offense?
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