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re: WF transfer QB Jamie Newman trending to UGA
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:27 pm to so_comfort
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:27 pm to so_comfort
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but at least they come at it from a data driven perspective. They track EVERYTHING.
Eh, it isn't really data driven. It's GRADE driven, and these are their grades.
So, it's interesting, but some of their stuff just doesn't seem to scale very well. It's all over the map.
I do like some of their specific stats, like the adjusted completion % and the like, but I wish they'd do more of just giving out the stats than psedo combining them into one super metric and not telling us all the ingredients.
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:27 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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You guys got 286 yards total against LSU at a neutral site.
Such a delusional frick stick.
Amazing that you left out that Swift only had 3 carries and were without our number 1 receiver and 3 others missed more than half the game.
Can you actually have rational discussion
about UGA withiut without half truths and lies by ommision?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:27 pm to Tigerman97
Won 3 in a row over auburn. Not bad.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:28 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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He's here. Ranked 11th in the country for Total QBR. Newman's not even in the top 50 for Total QBR.
Also here. Ranked 15th in the country for QBR. Newman is 40th.
Yep. Sure is.
Will be interesting to see how far Trask falls with the large majority of his WR talent leaving.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's GRADE driven, and these are their grades.
But the grades are based on their data tracking. But yes, I'd like to see the raw data too
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:34 pm to so_comfort
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But the grades are based on their data tracking. But yes, I'd like to see the raw data too
It's kinda weird they don't allow folks to buy it like they do the NFL stuff. I'd be really interested in it, because I like looking at all that stuff. I just hate not getting the same stat for each guy because it's impossible to compare guys.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:35 pm to RD Dawg
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Amazing that you left out that Swift only had 3 carries
Where's Swift going to be next year?
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and were without our number 1 receiver
Cager coming back I assume?
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Can you actually have rational discussion
about UGA withiut without half truths and lies by ommision?
I mean, we're talking about the future of Georgia's offense and you just lost the two biggest playmakers of your offense, your entire offensive line and you're looking at a decent but not great transfer market.
If anyone is being biased it is not me. That is a lot to overcome with a middling offensive coordinator/developer.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:38 pm to so_comfort
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Yep. Sure is.
Will be interesting to see how far Trask falls with the large majority of his WR talent leaving.
It'll be more interesting to see:
Our offensive line improve to be able to run block so Trask isn't throwing into pure pass defenses all game.
Our QB Focus will be completely on Trask, you guys forget that Franks was our starter and got the majority of the attention and had the offense tooled around his skills. Now that attention will be put on Trask.
Our best receiver of the year returned (Kyle Pitts) and probably our best pure receiver (Trevon Grimes) is coming back. Copeland has also looked impressive.
We also picked up Lorenzo Lingard, a 5-star Running Back from Miami.
In the end, I have a lot of faith in Mullen offenses because I've seen him completely retool it in the middle of the season to go from a Power Spread all the way to what's essentially an Air Raid.
You guys should definitely be worried about having a new starting RB, 4 new starting offensive linemen and a new starting QB coming in while losing your best WR.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:38 pm to so_comfort
I think at this point folks we just let the Dawg fans have their fantasy scenarios where they have stumbled across the second coming via grad transfer with a bunch of QBs that weren’t really great where they were our were backups (Chase Brice).
It’s clears the Dawg fans have their talking points and narratives in lock step and they can’t be reasoned with.
SummerofGeorge has done a nice job trying to temper their expectations. Unfortunately one of the most rational posters on the board is being dragged down Milledge Ave. whilst being stoned to death by the nasty hoard.
My prediction is that Jamie isn’t an idiot and goes to Oregon to play in a real offense. Chase Brice ends up at UGA. So all of this is moot anyways.
It’s clears the Dawg fans have their talking points and narratives in lock step and they can’t be reasoned with.
SummerofGeorge has done a nice job trying to temper their expectations. Unfortunately one of the most rational posters on the board is being dragged down Milledge Ave. whilst being stoned to death by the nasty hoard.
My prediction is that Jamie isn’t an idiot and goes to Oregon to play in a real offense. Chase Brice ends up at UGA. So all of this is moot anyways.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:39 pm to RiseUpATL
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My prediction is that Jamie isn’t an idiot and goes to Oregon to play in a real offense
To be fair it's hard to judge if they have a real offense as they don't have an offensive coordinator
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:39 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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In two quarters and overtime he accounted for three touchdown passes. If Alabama had played him the entire game Georgia wouldn't have even been in the game. Alabama went from 0 to 26 to win.
That was two years ago. Now all you guys are riding is a single SEC Championship. Last year Alabama beat you again (hilariously)
The margin of error in football games can be slim. It becomes extremely slim vs saban’s bama. Both games could have easily gone either way. Both came down to a few plays that went the bama way. That shouldn’t even have been possible using your thought process.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:40 pm to DawgRff
Truly terrifying.
Swift's still gone right?
Swift's still gone right?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:47 pm to djsdawg
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The margin of error in football games can be slim. It becomes extremely slim vs saban’s bama. Both games could have easily gone either way. Both came down to a few plays that went the bama way. That shouldn’t even have been possible using your thought process.
I don't think Georgia is even remotely close to beating Alabama if Tua had started in 2017. Of course, the cookie can crumble in many ways but the moment he came in you knew that Georgia's defense wouldn't be able to stop him.
The next year, let's say Georgia beats Alabama -- just to get their skull crushed by Clemson.
It's not that Georgia doesn't have a good team, it's that there are teams with real dynamic offenses out there that will always prevail eventually. It will continue to prevail.
This is why I was saying Kirby mismanaged the QB position, and will be the reason that he couldn't get those championships.
Now we're going into 2020 and there are zero QBs in the system who have playing time. Dwan couldn't play all year, Stetson barely threw, Beck is a true Freshman (who isn't a generational talent) and a transfer who obviously will only be there for...a year? Maybe two at most if Georgia is lucky?
Georgia won't win next year for sure, and we'll have to see how the Quarterbacks are coming for 2021, but I just don't see Kirby beating: Clemson or Alabama in the same year.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Very true. I have a hard time not seeing Oregon field a competent offense though. They’ll sling it. Jamie is a much better fit in that scheme. He will be absolutely wasted in whatever offense that is at UGA. Brice fits Kirbys style much better. Kirby wouldn’t know how to begin to use a DT QB. Coley either.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:50 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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I just don't see Kirby beating: Clemson or Alabama in the same year.
Well if you are truthful with your self you’ll admit you can’t see Mullen doing it either and that you don’t have a “generational talent” in your QB room either at the moment.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:57 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Our offensive line improve to be able to run block so Trask isn't throwing into pure pass defenses all game.
Meh. Still 4 of the same trash guys up front. They aren't going to improve that much from how bad they were.
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We also picked up Lorenzo Lingard, a 5-star Running Back from Miami.
Not a grad transfer, so he may have to sit. And Miami had three guys get carries ahead of him. You're really bragging about a fourth stringer from the Canes?
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You guys should definitely be worried about having a new starting RB, 4 new starting offensive linemen and a new starting QB coming in while losing your best WR.
I am worried about the offense. Good thing the defense will be the best in the nation.
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:00 pm to Dawgfanman
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Well if you are truthful with your self you’ll admit you can’t see Mullen doing it either and that you don’t have a “generational talent” in your QB room either at the moment.
I think the difference is that Mullen has shown that he can be successful with whatever offensive scheme he has, which is not the same with Georgia.
Points For:
Florida: 432 (13 games)
Georgia: 431 (14 games)
Points Per Game:
Florida: 33.2
Georgia: 30.8
Considering we played a single game less and had to change our entire offensive scheme mid-season that is really, really impressive. Trask doesn't even fit Mullen's archetype for what he wants at QB.
Do you think our offense will get worse when one of his actual Quarterbacks are starting and not the guy he inherited?
I don't think we can beat Clemson or Alabama right now, but I know that in year 4 this team will be much, much better than this Georgia team on offense.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:05 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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but I know that in year 4 this team will be much, much better than this Georgia team on offense.
Wait til the year after next, really? lol
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:09 pm to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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Do you think our offense will get worse when one of his actual Quarterbacks are starting and not the guy he inherited?
It's pretty obvious that Emory Jones is a bust, so I guess we'll see about Richardson.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:09 pm to so_comfort
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Meh. Still 4 of the same trash guys up front. They aren't going to improve that much from how bad they were.
They were very good in pass protection and this will allow us to work on that all off-season as we readjust the offense to Trask's strength -- who already had a fantastic year and is the leading QBR and Total QBR in the SEC despite those handicaps.
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Not a grad transfer, so he may have to sit. And Miami had three guys get carries ahead of him. You're really bragging about a fourth stringer from the Canes?
He will 100% get a waiver, dad is in very poor health and lives within 100 miles of Gainesville.
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I am worried about the offense. Good thing the defense will be the best in the nation.
I loved that one time your all-star defense got carved up by Joe Burrow. You guys were just very fortunate to play the backup QB against:
Baylor (for almost a half)
Florida
Missouri
Kentucky
Tennessee
and South Carolina (for almost a half).
Anyone could have inflated self-worth of their defense when almost half of the P5 teams they played on the year didn't even have their first string QB play for the entire game.
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