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re: Week 8 Power Ratings and SEC slate

Posted on 10/20/26 at 7:58 am to
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/20/26 at 7:58 am to
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Are you weighing turnovers or havoc rates?


He’s definitely not or Kentucky would be much higher with a +11
Posted by Cockadoodledude
Member since Oct 2026
42 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:01 am to
So you weight blowouts against terrible teams the same as close wins against good teams? Lmao
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
412 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:16 am to
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He’s definitely not or Kentucky would be much higher with a +11

This would hurt Kentucky.. Jesus Christ, you people are morons.

Kentucky has BENEFITED from turnovers. The model would see Kentucky has been very lucky in a few games and it would dock their rating.

It would actually help teams like LSU and Oklahoma who turn the ball over.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
412 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:24 am to
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So you weight blowouts against terrible teams the same as close wins against good teams? Lmao

No. You just made this up. I never said this nor implied it.

But you also sound like one of those casuals who thinks there are 10 good teams and everyone else is "terrible".
Posted by Cockadoodledude
Member since Oct 2026
42 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:26 am to
I actually watch the games. Any model that states that notre dame is the best team in college football is obviously flawed.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
412 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:35 am to
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Are you weighing turnovers or havoc rates?

Let me think about this, actually. I'll need to run some tests. I only add things like this if it improves the MAE (mean average error). Most of the time, that's not the case.

Regardless, it's not going to produce the outcome that most people on here would want. It would hurt Kentucky, ND and help LSU, Oklahoma. But if it's more accurate for predictions, then it's more accurate for predictions and should be included.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
109886 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 8:49 am to
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This would hurt Kentucky.. Jesus Christ, you people are morons. Kentucky has BENEFITED from turnovers. The model would see Kentucky has been very lucky in a few games and it would dock their rating. It would actually help teams like LSU and Oklahoma who turn the ball over.


Then your model is stupid if it doesn’t account for a defense creating turnovers. And instead punishes them for it.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
30982 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:12 am to
Outpermed expectations? How....

2 ranked teams LSU has played

Ole Miss- Loss- 32-24
Kentucky- 35-34


Um.....so LSU has played 2 currently ranked teams . and is 0-2 in those games ...but are very good at blowing out bad or average teams. If losing to ranked teams and blowing bad teams is the sign of a great team...CFB is a joke now. It would be like ranking us highly because of the Ole Miss and Texas games, and ignoring the South Car and Mizzou games....
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
412 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:26 am to
You aren't looking at this objectively and you're cherry-picking games. You have to look at the entire body of work.

If Florida didn't have two very bad losses - blowout losses, they would be a good bit higher. Those were potent losses.

Outperforming expectations means exceeding your projected margin of victory against another team. This may be a simpler way of viewing it:

LSU and Florida against expectations (spread) (+ = overperformed, - = underperformed)
LSU:
v Clemson = +31
v LA Tech = +1.5
v Ole Miss = -13
v A&M = +17
v Kentucky = -11.5
v Miss St = +19

total: +44 (LSU has overperformed by 44 points)

Florida:
v FAU = +18.5
v Auburn = +1.5
v Ole Miss = +17
v Missouri = -39.5
v SC = -30
v Texas = +15

total: -17.5 (Florida has underperformed by 17.5 points)


Florida was favored against Missouri by 11.5 and SC by 11. If Florida would have lost those games by say 3 points in both, their total would be +23.5. See the difference? The model doesn't work exactly this way, but this is just a simpler way of putting it. The model looks at offense and defense separately and it doesn't weight every game the same, whereas, just now I only looked at the total and I weighted every game the same. In reality, LSU's total is little lower and Florida's total is a little higher. But I hope you at least understand the point being made.

Keep in mind, the model is trying to PREDICT SCORES. That's it's only purpose. When LSU blows out A&M (#30 team in the ratings), it matters. And it matters more than LSU blowing out LA Tech (#75 team in the ratings). You may think A&M is a "terrible" team, but they aren't. They are better than 75% of the teams in the country.

Again, it's a gradient over 138 teams - there aren't 10 good teams and the rest "terrible".
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 10:32 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
63037 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:29 am to
Anybody that thinks LSU is the 3rd best team in the country needs their head examined. If LSU fans want to claim this, then they should be royally ticked off that their coach has the 3rd best team and lost to Kentucky (#22 according to these power rankings) and Ole Miss (#10 according to these power rankings).
Posted by Cockadoodledude
Member since Oct 2026
42 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:38 am to
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You aren't looking at this objectively


We are objectively calling you a retard.
Posted by MilkJug
Member since Nov 2025
412 posts
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:40 am to
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We are objectively calling you a retard.

Good for you.
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