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re: "We continue to have guys make poor decisions, you know? It’s very unfortunate." - Kirby

Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18760 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:23 pm to
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There is nothing more consequential than death.


So as punishment you guys are killing players then? He’s saying the university and football team have taken no consequential action against players that continue to repeat this behavior.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24713 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:27 pm to
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So as punishment you guys are killing players then? He’s saying the university and football team have taken no consequential action against players that continue to repeat this behavior.


I am unaware of any repeat offenders who haven’t received substantial/cosequential punishment. Who are you talking about?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:31 pm to
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So as punishment you guys are killing players then? He’s saying the university and football team have taken no consequential action against players that continue to repeat this behavior.


Nothing the school does is as consequential as DEATH.

If death doesn't work, it's safe to assume nothing will as people will always drive their fast cars fast.

And he would be wrong to think "no action" has been taken.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3999 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:32 pm to
What part of "When athletes or anyone is misbehaving, anything and everything will happen." You think the same athletes who clearly party with UGA employees and disregard the safety of others on the road would never ever get behind the wheel of a UGA vehicle. Nope. Not possible. Or go out to dinner with a UGA staffer where drinks were bought with a UGA credit card and the player manage to hit a station wagon on their way home. Who bought your drinks young man? Uhhhh....

Your mind just cannot wrap around the endless possibilities when people behave with complete disregard for other people.

So adorable. So so absolutely adorable.
Posted by Jdgood1
Member since Dec 2022
243 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:34 pm to
I know they've brought people in to talk to the team. If they're getting suspended and nil taken from them I'm not sure what else you can do. Ban them from owning hellcats I guess lol
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:39 pm to
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What part of "When athletes or anyone is misbehaving, anything and everything will happen." You think the same athletes who clearly party with UGA employees and disregard the safety of others on the road would never ever get behind the wheel of a UGA vehicle. Nope. Not possible. Or go out to dinner with a UGA staffer where drinks were bought with a UGA credit card and the player manage to hit a station wagon on their way home. Who bought your drinks young man?
Uhhhh....

If they were to do this, yes, it could be very messy for UGA. Most of these cases do not involve UGA vehicles though, and only a few have involved alcohol.

This is an issue UGA needs to address, but their options are somewhat limited without being unreasonably draconian. They’ve clearly made the decision that suspension is a reasonable punishment for excessive speeding, but kicking someone off the team on first offense is not.
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18760 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:40 pm to
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Nothing the school does is as consequential as DEATH. If death doesn't work, it's safe to assume nothing will as people will always drive their fast cars fast. And he would be wrong to think "no action" has been taken.


None of them think death is going to happen to them though, clearly. They also know no punishment will come from Kirby or the university, thus the issues continue
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:41 pm to
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ou think the same athletes who clearly party with UGA employees and disregard the safety of others on the road would never ever get behind the wheel of a UGA vehicle. Nope. Not possible.


Of Course those are possible, but we aren't talking about them driving UGA vehicles.

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So adorable. So so absolutely adorable.


Such a weird comment, and you have done this multiple times.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26506 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:42 pm to
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They also know no punishment will come from Kirby or the university, thus the issues continue

This is 100% false. UGA has been suspending and kicking off players. Other teams’ fans ultimately just want UGA to lose games, so obviously those suspensions have not been satisfactory.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:43 pm to
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They also know no punishment will come from Kirby or the university, thus the issues continue


Admit it, You just want to sign our players after they get kicked off for their first driving offense.
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11605 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:43 pm to
Which is why this will always be a problem under Kirby. You got to have a sacrificial lamb or shite isn’t going to change. So I guess you guys just need to get used to it huh? Someone else just has to die right? That’s called chicken shite right there, and honestly has made my view of Georgia change dramatically. Not everyone will agree with me here, but I used to have a pretty high opinion of Athens and the Georgia Bulldogs. That’s gone to shite.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:52 pm to
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You got to have a sacrificial lamb or shite isn’t going to change.


A player of ours DIED, and shite didn't change.

It will always be a problem in society.

Your players drive their fast cars fast too, and no coach would do what you are expecting Kirby to do. The punishment should always fit the crime in a reasonable society.

Posted by Poichess
Member since Jun 2019
1112 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:08 pm to
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A player of ours DIED, and shite didn't change.

Historically, demonstrating support for a player was a common recruiting strategy, and players were well cared for. Kirby would have to modernize and rethink this strategy and dismantle the system that enables this support. Reckless driving could be treated with the same seriousness as the NFL's stance on gambling. It is essential to make it clear that players will face indefinite suspensions for at least the remainder of the season. With this framework in place, the issue can be effectively addressed.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3999 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Of Course those are possible, but we aren't talking about them driving UGA vehicles

And I thought we were talking about a general pattern of reckless behavior and disregard for public safety. Silly me. I didn't know rules had been set where we can't discuss when (no ifs) the reckless behavior falls outside of a very narrow set of situation where it is just a sober speeder. Everyone knows reckless behavior, by definition, follows the exact same pattern each and every time.

And if someone has to explain why they say you are "adorable" when you keep saying dumb things, I am not sure explaining it will help you understand it.

Later.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:17 pm to
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And I thought we were talking about a general pattern of reckless behavior and disregard for public safety


In the context of the school being held liable for player mistakes.

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And if someone has to explain why they say you are "adorable" when you keep saying dumb things, I am not sure explaining it will help you understand it.


It’s a lame flame devoid of any substance
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
19868 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:57 pm to
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James Pearce is part of that same culture. You think he is the only vol to drive his fast car fast?


Pearce is an example of an outlier at a normal program. When UT gets close to double digits in a 26 month span and the coach and administration have to defend doing nothing about it you can make such a statement. Until then you need to get your head out of your arse.
Posted by BrounHaller
Mtn Brook
Member since Aug 2023
1842 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:03 pm to
You are deliberately trying to be obtuse in the throes of your own fandom. If your loved one got hit and killed by a football player doing a 100 on surface streets, after multiple different players have done that, I am sure your view might change a bit.

If your program was a dumpster fire (like ours if I might offer) and was in the midst of multiple losing seasons, every one of you fanboys and your mothers would be out for Kirby’s head. So stop being a hypocrite and gtfo.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:06 pm to
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Pearce is an example of an outlier at a normal program.


Point is, we wouldn’t have known about his driving issue if he didn’t force the cop to arrest him. Safe to assume other issues have arisen in a group of 120 people though.

Citations that don’t result in arrest are now known at uga, but they are not known anywhere else. It’s unequal reporting. Not apples to apples.

Everyone recruits the same pool of players, and most of them enjoy driving their fast cars fast.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38128 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:10 pm to
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I am sure your view might change a bit.


In what ways?

I would still blame the person behind the wheel of their own car with their own insurance rather than someone else.

I wouldn’t suddenly think there is a magic wand to keep people driving fast cars slowly.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68616 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:12 pm to
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I know they've brought people in to talk to the team. If they're getting suspended and nil taken from them I'm not sure what else you can do. Ban them from owning hellcats I guess lol

I would have confiscated car keys from players a long time ago. Because I agree with what others have said, college aged kids with fast cars are going to drive like idiots. I’d also be having discussions with boosters and tell them to find something else to give the players
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