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re: Way early SEC West prediction:

Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:35 pm to
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I see another 2011 type Defenses for both teams this year.
I don't. Neither have those caliber players right now. Entering 2011, we knew Alabama and LSU would have stacked defenses in every phase of the game.

Alabama's secondary, outside of Landon Collins, is a complete toss-up. Eddie Jackson has a torn ACL, Cyrus Jones is terrible, Geno Smith can't stay out of the doghouse, and the rest are unproven and inexperienced... Tony Brown and Marlon Humphrey are being called upon for massive playing time by Alabama fans.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:38 pm to
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I don't. Neither have those caliber players right now. Entering 2011, we knew Alabama and LSU would have stacked defenses in every phase of the game.


Agreed.

I don't think we'll see 2011 Alabama and 2011 LSU types units for some time. They were "generational" defenses. The two best in conference history since the 1992 Alabama unit.

tGOATs
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:42 pm to
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Entering 2011, we knew Alabama and LSU would have stacked defenses in every phase of the game.

LSU lost Kelvin Sheppard, Patrick Peterson, and Drake Nevis prior to the 2011 season. If you go back to the preseason, there were plenty of people wondering how LSU was going to replace those 3 guys. No one expected LSU to make a run like they did in 2011. Barkevious Mingo was a relative unknown at that point. Sam Montgomery was coming off a torn ACL. The linebacker situation was a complete unknown. Not that I expect LSU's defense in 2014 to be anything like the 2011 defense, but let's not act like LSU's 2011 defense was without huge question marks entering the season.
This post was edited on 4/24/14 at 6:44 pm
Posted by Won3ofTheLast5
Member since Mar 2014
370 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:46 pm to
You don't have a clue. I knew going into 2011 Bama would have a great Defense after a disappointing 2010 Defense. This Defense looks much better than that one. It's about "chemistry". LSU's 2010 Defense wasn't exactly great coming off the 2010 season either, giving up 33 PPG in their last 3 games. With teams like Bama & LSU it's about "chemistry", the talent is there, and the chemistry this year is right for both of them.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27676 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:46 pm to
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LSU lost Kelvin Sheppard, Patrick Peterson, and Drake Nevis prior to the 2011 season. If you go back to the preseason, there were plenty of people wondering how LSU was going to replace those 3 guys. No one expected LSU to make a run like they did in 2011. Barkevious Mingo was a relative unknown at that point. Sam Montgomery was coming off a torn ACL. The linebacker situation was a complete unknown. Not that I expect LSU's defense in 2014 to be anything like the 2011 defense, but let's not act like LSU's 2011 defense was without huge question marks entering the season.


All these question marks which allowed LSU to start the season ranked #4

Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
52570 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:47 pm to
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Because LSU envies us, in all things.

Which part. Being the little brother who has been a shite show this decade? Or losing 77-0 in a REGULAR season game
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68653 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:48 pm to
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All these question marks which allowed LSU to start the season ranked #4

LSU entered 2008 ranked #7. What's your point?
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:52 pm to
21-0
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:53 pm to
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You don't have a clue.
Funny coming from Beer Bryant.

I see you didn't dispute anything I said about the secondary, though, because you can't. In 2011, Alabama had Dre Kirkpatrick, Dee Milliner, Mark Barron, Robert Lester, and DeQuan Menzie in the secondary. They can't touch the combined talent and experience in 2011 with this 2014 squad, they just can't.
Posted by NewtonCoTide646
Newton county Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
227 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:44 pm to
Bama's front 7 is going to be great, the secondary is the question and by that I mean corner back. Stacked at RB and WR. OL should be better but still not dominate. QB is a concern.

A lot of people will be upset when State whoops that arse this year. They had more freshman playing last year than Ole miss; who everyone thought was the youngest sec team but it was really MSU.

Posted by NewtonCoTide646
Newton county Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
227 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:49 pm to
Can you name all of the sec teams former players like that or are just alabama??
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72914 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:50 pm to
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I see you didn't dispute anything I said about the secondary, though, because you can't. In 2011, Alabama had Dre Kirkpatrick, Dee Milliner, Mark Barron, Robert Lester, and DeQuan Menzie in the secondary. They can't touch the combined talent and experience in 2011 with this 2014 squad, they just can't.


If they develop, the secondary of 2015 and 2016 can be just as good.
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:53 pm to
Maybe so, but not the 2014 squad.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72914 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:55 pm to
They'll be good enough.
Posted by NewtonCoTide646
Newton county Mississippi
Member since Jan 2014
227 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 7:58 pm to
We will win 10 regular season games and have the talent to win them all. But talent alone will not win games. Plus we won't have a QB who points fingers after losses. Sorry fellow Bama fans but that's bull shite.
Posted by Whiskey Man
St Somewhere
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:37 pm to
LSU
Auburn
Ole Miss
Bama
MSU
aTm
Arkansas
Posted by Road to 16
Mississippi
Member since Feb 2014
823 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:42 pm to
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Auburn
4. Ole Miss
5. A&M
6. MSU
7. Arkansas
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
16019 posts
Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:43 pm to
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This Defense looks much better than that one. It's about "chemistry"
BeerBryant

Knows the " chemistry" of the Alabama defense 5+ months away from the season while still missing key ingredients.

A fricking football coaching god this guy.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:46 pm to
Posted by lsutothetop
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Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 8:48 pm to
I can't make a good prediction ahead of time.

Auburn, Alabama or LSU aren't any more likely to win the West than the other two. I think all three of them finish 1-2-3 in any order.

Then I can see any of Ole Miss, Mississippi State or Texas A&M for 4-5-6. If one of the top 3's replacement players just don't pan out then they could fall to 4 and the best team out of this group of 3 could get to 3rd.

Only one I'm certain about is Arkansas being last, I think they're a year away. But they're not going winless in the SEC and I don't have any reason to pick them to surprise one team over another.

The West is more stacked and balanced than it has been for a long time -- looks like it'll rival 2010 and surpass virtually any other set of Western teams in the history of the division.
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